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  • Crop Rotation - I'm confused.com. Nothing to do with the weather!

    Hi. I'm trying to plan what's going in which beds next year, and was doing fine until I realised I hadn't considered the winter plantings!

    So... where do I plant my winter brassicas for example? In my existing brassica beds (for roots and onions next year I believe), or in the current legume beds where the brassicas will move to next year? Or in any old spaces wherever they happen to be - presently with the leeks or some miniscule squashes (where we had cabbage root fly a few months ago...)? But if I plant in next year's brassica beds, doesn't that change the rotation and mean I'd have to put roots and onions in there too afterwards? Or am I taking this all way too seriously...

    My current plan is just to stick winter brassicas in the current brassica bed as things are removed, and hope for the best. Can I plant brassicas amongst squashes (since they're only about 8" diameter still!)? Can I plant red clover amongst brassicas over the winter?

    Doh, so much to learn!
    sigpicGardening in France rocks!

  • #2
    Originally posted by kathyd View Post
    Or am I taking this all way too seriously...
    IMHO Yes I think your best plan is to put the winter brassicas in the current brassica bed as and when you have space.

    I wouldn't plant brassicas with squash cos if the squash get going they will completely overwhelm the bras.

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    • #3
      Thx rustylady, you've made my day
      sigpicGardening in France rocks!

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      • #4
        And then what about overwintering onions and garlic...won't that brassica bed now be tied up till May??
        Important to remember shading out issues too.
        Don't panic!..as long as you remember to not continually plant things in the same spot longterm.
        Timings gets easier with experience...You will just kinda fall into a rhythm.(learn by your successes/mistakes?!!!)

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        • #5
          Yups, you don't need to get too hung up on a rigid scheme of rotation. The idea is simply to avoid a build up of pests and diseases in a particular part of the vegetable plot and you won't get that from having the same crop in the same spot over two years. It's easier with a bigger plot but those with less ground simply have to compromise.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Paulottie View Post
            And then what about overwintering onions and garlic...won't that brassica bed now be tied up till May??
            Important to remember shading out issues too.
            Don't panic!..as long as you remember to not continually plant things in the same spot longterm.
            Timings gets easier with experience...You will just kinda fall into a rhythm.(learn by your successes/mistakes?!!!)
            Lol, I know, I'd already thought about when on earth I was going to get my onions and things into the bras bed, but decided one question at a time was quite enough . I'll have to make that my mantra - 'remember not to panic'.
            sigpicGardening in France rocks!

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            • #7
              Thx AP . I can see myself ending up with all sorts of 'bits' of stuff all over the place before I've finished, and getting totally confused about which part of which bed should be used for what next, if I get too fixated on the rotation issue. In theory I 'should' have plenty of space now, but you can always find a reason for needing more somehow... heh .
              sigpicGardening in France rocks!

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              • #8
                I find it easier to stick to 2 key principles.

                A - rotate the potato bed
                B - don't follow like with like.

                Works for me.

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                • #9
                  I was having the exact same kind of confusions, brassicas being the main one, as I've got a load of oriental ones for planting now.

                  It gets even more confusing when you add intercropping into the mix, for example, you can underplant sweetcorn with mizuna but then I'll have a brassicas in a different bed too.

                  Also, as I grow my potatoes in special planter bags I'll not be able rotate where I'm planting them, so will need to rotate the soil instead.

                  Confused.com, indeed.

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                  • #10
                    a - you aren't a farmer so don't sweat it
                    b - if you have problems, with one particular crop - then rotate that one.
                    c - brassicas have issues with pests more than anything so they often DO need to stay together to be netted together.

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                    • #11
                      Thx Zazen . So it's simples really - grow what you like, where you like, and whenever you can, stop being a stress-head and just enjoy it!
                      sigpicGardening in France rocks!

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                      • #12
                        If you need me to come down and show you some tips and techniques, I need a feather free pillow but apart from that, I'm free until Sept!

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                        • #13
                          ^^^^D'ya need a travel companion ....
                          S*d the housework I have a lottie to dig
                          a batch of jam is always an act of creation ..Christine Ferber

                          You can't beat a bit of garden porn

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                          • #14
                            *amends ryanair booking.

                            What time shall I pick you up?

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                            • #15
                              Ready when you are.............didn't want to be at work anyway
                              S*d the housework I have a lottie to dig
                              a batch of jam is always an act of creation ..Christine Ferber

                              You can't beat a bit of garden porn

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