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    Hi All
    have just been browsing the net to see what height to do my raised beds, and have come across 'lasagne gardening'. After reading about how to do it (it seems pretty simple) I am thinking about giving it a go. Has anybody used this method before? Any tips?
    Also the raised beds (that I have convinced my other half are a good idea in our back garden!) will be sitting on a very rubbish soil. It's very heavy clay mixed with building materials from when the house was built!. Any recommendations on how deep to do the raised beds?

    Thanks

  • #2
    Lots of information on here. Have a look at TwoSheds posts and photos.

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    • #3
      Our raised beds are double height Linkabord - maybe 12" deep? But not quite filled to the top - you'll need huge amounts of soil or compost to fill them with... I tried a mini lasagne thing with layered cardboard and green stuff, laid over very rough grass and weeds, and although still weedy and not really ready to plant immediately in the spring, was a whole lot better than the rest of the area around it. Use the search box (or advanced search) at the top of the page to find previous posts, there've been lots of discussions about these topics as RL says. If you then have specific questions which haven't been answered, post again . I have to be honest, I don't always find the Search the easiest to use and I tend to get very random results from it, but that's probably just me being hopeless .
      Last edited by kathyd; 09-10-2013, 09:16 AM.
      sigpicGardening in France rocks!

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      • #4
        Have never tried it Mumbles but there are a few threads here:

        http://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gra...earchid=311052
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        • #5
          What organic materials can you get hold of? If you can only get hold of muck then do raised beds with that. If you can get a large amount of various then go lasagna.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mumbles View Post
            'lasagne gardening'. Has anybody used this method before?
            Now that it's a criminal offence to suggest that one uses the search button ...

            or to suggest that one uses a common search engine to do a search ...

            Here are a few from the archives:

            http://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gra...ant_75308.html

            http://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gra...eds_71091.html

            http://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gra...hod_53906.html

            http://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gra...mag_25863.html


            Originally posted by Mumbles View Post
            the raised beds ... will be sitting on a very rubbish soil.
            That's precisely what raised beds are for: enabling you to grow crops on rubbish soil.

            The lasagne method is also known as sheet mulching. It's a very quick, easy way to turn a patch of rubbish soil into a productive growing area.
            Saves a whole lot of back-breaking digging & shovelling of compost. You just make the compost where you need it (in layers). Then you finish off with a layer of friable (fine) topsoil, which can be topsoil from good loam, or molehill soil, or purchased compost.

            Over time the layers will rot and the level will sink, which you then top up with ordinary garden compost.

            Originally posted by Mumbles View Post
            how deep to do the raised beds?
            That's up to you. The higher the sides are (I assume you're using wood?) the more filling you'll need, although you don't need to fill the bed all at once.

            Crops will grow down to utilise the "rubbish" soil too, so give the base a thorough forking over to aid drainage.

            How deep? How deep/long is your biggest veg going to be? If a parsnip is 9", then make your bed about 9" deep.

            Our beds at school (flick thru the album)

            are different depths, and one of them we didn't fill with compost at all, we left it as "rubbish soil" and boy it was rubbish: everything stopped growing & died soon after planting.

            Our deepest bed is probably 20" , and it's too deep. The weight of compost keeps pushing the walls out and collapsing them.
            6" is high enough for us, we manage to grow lots in them. You have to try it for yourself really, it all depends on what your particular soil is like, and only you know that by trying it.
            All gardeners know better than other gardeners." -- Chinese Proverb.

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            • #7
              I don't know about lasagne but there are some tips on the height of raised beds on:
              How to build a raised bed with railway sleepers
              It seems that people build raised beds in lots of different ways, whether for veg beds or school flower beds. There's lots of ideas and inspiration here!
              Raised bed projects with Railway sleepers
              Good luck and good gardening!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by kathyd View Post
                I don't always find the Search the easiest to use and I tend to get very random results from it, but that's probably just me being hopeless .
                It's not you being hopeless, Kathyd, but the GYO Search facility which is fairly limited. But not a problem, the way round it is to use Google and make the first search term "growfruitandveg.co.uk"
                or even
                "www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/grapevine"
                and then add the word/s you're searching such as "lasagne".
                Google will then give you accurate detailed references from the GYO site!
                If there are a lot of them it may also offer you "More references" and if you click that you'll get, surprise surprise, even more references from the GYO site!
                "Enjoy!" (as they insist on saying in naff restaurants....)
                .

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                • #9
                  ^ he's right, our Search function on here is pretty much useless.

                  I now use g00gle, but slightly differently from above. I type "grapevine" before what I'm looking for, eg "lasagne", then I click on "discussions" from the drop-down box at the top of the g00gle page.
                  All gardeners know better than other gardeners." -- Chinese Proverb.

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                  • #10
                    The link I put on #4 as you can see came from using the vines search facility, I just went into advanced search & selected titles for Lasagne. It wasn't difficult at all.
                    sigpic“Gorillas are very intelligent, but they don't have to be as delicate as chimps -- they can just smash open the termite nest,”
                    --------------------------------------------------------------------
                    Official Member Of The Nutters Club - Rwanda Branch.
                    -------------------------------------------------------------------
                    Sent from my ZX Spectrum with no predictive text..........
                    -----------------------------------------------------------
                    KOYS - King Of Yellow Stickers..............

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                    • #11
                      Ssshh BM - your link doesn't work

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                      • #12
                        *splutter over keyboard* LOL

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                        • #13
                          I don't think he's noticed yet

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                          • #14
                            Bu99er.......... it did work for a while.............ah well, bang goes my theory.
                            sigpic“Gorillas are very intelligent, but they don't have to be as delicate as chimps -- they can just smash open the termite nest,”
                            --------------------------------------------------------------------
                            Official Member Of The Nutters Club - Rwanda Branch.
                            -------------------------------------------------------------------
                            Sent from my ZX Spectrum with no predictive text..........
                            -----------------------------------------------------------
                            KOYS - King Of Yellow Stickers..............

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                            • #15
                              You don't need to put sides on your beds; we just mound up the soil. It means we can be flexible about the shape and size of the bed and if anyone trips up, they might take out a plant but they don't hurt themselves. And they can kneel down on the soil without having to avoid wood.

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