bread query

[jps]

Jps I have practiced and practiced bread. How long is she kneading for? Could be too much flour? Is she rising it twice? It took me forever to make bread that wasnt a dense clump! Now I just need to sort the yeasty taste out.

i am not 100% sure tbh, she claims to knead it for as long as they do on tv when we have seen it. i didnt expect it to be like warburtons or whatever but it seems a bit too dense.

i will have to have a go and see what happens, it always seems easy but even tho she proves it twice it still seems to dense.

[BarleySugar]

I find the dried yeast works very well for me, either in the breadmaker or by hand. The bread doesn't taste yeasty at all (to my mind anyway). I use 750g flour (white or white/wholemeal 50/50), 2 teasp salt, 30g marg or oil and 400ml water to 1 sachet of yeast. The fat makes the bread softer.

I do the sourdough bread too, now that does have a flavour, but we all really like it

[SarrissUK]

I do a lot of bread on weekends, and I never, ever follow the recipe when it comes to how long it's left to rise - I always at least double it. The yeast will be leaving a stronger taste the shorter you leave it, as it's not had time to work (at least that's how my mother taught me).
I made tiger bread last weekend and it's bloody lovely. To make four big loaves, I use two sachets (or around 15g) of dried yeast, but let it rise twice - first time for half an hour, then a good 15 minutes of kneading, then form into loaves and let rise for around two hours. Slowly is better, I find... so avoid it being TOO hot - then it rises too fast.

[Jax]

So that didnt work I rose it all evening and all night and baked it this morning. He said it was "tangy" so I am trying a bread mix tonight. Aaaargh!

[northepaul]

You could make soda bread instead!

[zazen999]

Jax - try this recipe.

500g flour
350g water
7g yeast [dried]
7g salt

Mix in a bowl and then do this for 15 mins. Leave on the surface for 1 hr to prove. Then shape and leave for another hour. Then bake in a very hot oven, don't forget to slash it.

[SarrissUK]

Wow that's pretty impressive Zaz! I can't imagine doing that 600 times over for a loaf though, but I appreciate the craft.
Jax, remember home made bread will not, and should not, taste like shop bought bread. You might want to experiment with strong bread flour too?

[SarrissUK]

Oh and apparently a bit of sugar helps the yeast too - it feeds it?

[Two_Sheds]

Zazen's technique: slam & batter your dough, chuck it around the table, whilst talking in a sexy French accent

[zazen999]

Wow that's pretty impressive Zaz! I can't imagine doing that 600 times over for a loaf though, but I appreciate the craft.
Jax, remember home made bread will not, and should not, taste like shop bought bread. You might want to experiment with strong bread flour too?

You do it until the texture changes - i think the 600 was just bravado for the camera.

Honestly - this makes the bestest bread ever. It's slightly more wet than you'd usually expect and that's what lets the yeast rise, and takes the yeasty smell away. Usually bread is too dry when kneading and that's what the problem is. This method although it looks scarey is so simple to do.

[biggreenfingers]

I like a dense bread, the one I normally make is almost like a tea cake. My favourite is banana bread made in my panasonic bread maker. It is absolutely delicious lightly toasted with a bit of butter and a cup of coffee......mmmmnnnnnnn !! My children love it aswell and ask me constantly to make it.

[Creemteez]

Jax, another Sour Dough enthusiast here! Come and join us - you won't regret it!

[Jax]

I would love to give sourdough a go, however, I dont want to make my own starter if its tried and disliked! He liked-ish the mix.

[Two_Sheds]

^ that's funny, cos the ready mixes often have "too much" yeast in them, imo

[sequoia]

I use this recipe for the breadmaker
330 ml of soya milk,
1 tbs olive oil,
500 g strong bread flour,
1 tsp salt,
1 tsp sugar,
1 tsp yeast.
They go in the breadmaker in that order, wet goods first, you can use water plus 2 tbs of soya granules,soya seems to give more rise also makes bread last longer.