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    I need to buy a new sander,to prepare the hall walls,i have been looking on line at some with a dust collector on,ARE they any good,or just a waste of time,i hope to go looking and feeling the weight of them,before i buy in next few days.

    Another question is,i have striped the paper off,and some paint has come of in odd spots,using poly filler in not good,am i right in thinking,that a thick paint can be dobed in, paint with a sealer first,then sand when dry,i do not want to paper again,only emultion,it will make it easier for me in future,or a quicker job,if i have to get help in.
    thanks for looking
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    I have a Bosch with a dust collector to which you can connect a vacum cleaner. Never done that but the dust collector works fine. As far as the walls go if the surface isn’t good I personally would line the walls as emulsion will show up all sorts of defects. Plain lining paper is fine and then just emulsion over it. In the long run it is probably less work than filling and sanding also less mess. No matter how good the dust collection is there will always be some that escapes.

    Best of luck
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    • #3
      I would do the same as roitelet and use a heavy lining paper, as for a sander I don't know what type my wife uses
      it may be a struggle to reach the top, but once your over the hill your problems start.

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      • #4
        Bit hard to be sure what the best way round it is without seeing it in person. I've done a lot of painting over the years and with walls it all comes down to getting the surface right, if you want a good finish.

        Anyway I'd say however you decide to prep it, try a test area afterwards with some paint and leave it to dry for a day before before you commit to finishing the work - you can (and I have) waste a lot of time and energy painting, if the underlying surface is not right

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        • #5
          Fill it as best you can and, in VC fashion, hang a picture over it.

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          • #6
            Where there’s a paint spot missing,depending on depth,polyfiller then sanding would be best,you can get ready prepared polyfiller if you prefer. Paint alone would be difficult to build up the layers in the one spot,I’ve never used lining paper. You can buy a thick filler you skim onto the wall like plaster,comes in a tub but it’s white,good for a big area.
            Location : Essex

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            • #7
              Thankyou grapes,
              sigpicAnother nutter ,wife,mother, nan and nanan,love my growing places,seed collection and sharing,also one of these

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              • #8
                I once sanded a painted and plastered wall. I will never do it again. Dust everywhere (despite collection bag) and doubtless in my lungs. Also, what seems an acceptable weight when trying a sander out will seem a lot worse once you've been holding it up against a wall for a bit...

                Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I don't want to hear of you being carted off to hospital due to asphyxiation caused by dust. Me, I'd cover with lining paper and then do what VC suggests: hang pictures over the bits that stand out as less even.

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                • #9
                  I use sand paper btw there’s less dust mess filling the room,Ive got one of those little electric handheld ones but with a dust mask & eye mask the dust still finds it’s way in,lining paper seems difficult I wouldn’t get it straight I’d have creases if I did it.
                  Location : Essex

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                  • #10
                    defo not be using any paper,will have to make a decition when i start on it,will need a dry warmer day,to have the front door open for air,thanks again for your thoughts and suggestions,will let you know how it goes.
                    sigpicAnother nutter ,wife,mother, nan and nanan,love my growing places,seed collection and sharing,also one of these

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                    • #11
                      As a tradesman, this is one post I can probably offer some advice on

                      If you’re planning on painting the walls, it may take a fair bit of prep but it can be done if they’re not in a bad state. Don’t bother with a sander, it’ll do more harm than good if you’re not used to using them as the plaster will only be a couple of mm thick (less depending on how good the spread was). Get some sugar soap and clean all the walls, this will help to remove any last little bits of paper etc. Then use some suitable filler and knife to fill any gaps/cracks/holes etc. Give it a day and then go over it all with a fine grit sanding block by hand or a very fine grit on a sander. Sugar soap it all again and then see if it’s ready for painting. This may sound laborious but it’s probably better than going for it with a sander and possibly going straight through the skim coat.

                      Hope this helps!

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                      • #12
                        If you do get a sander, you’re best off with something cheap from screwfix. You’ll not need anything fancy. Even cheap power tools are half decent these days from places like screwfix

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                        • #13
                          I wouldn't use a sander on a plastered wall or use lining paper if you only intend to paint it. Holes should be filled with a filler(as said for small areas a tube of ready mixed can be used) then lightly sanded to both flatten and rough the surface to "key" it, this lets the paint get a grip on the surface. I am now using pads rather than a roller to apply the paint these days, less mess and does a nice job and no brush marks.
                          Lining paper should be put up horizontally before adding paper that is hung vertically, this disguises any joins.

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                          • #14
                            I think imperfections give a wall a bit of character. I used lining paper in one room but just painted the walls in another. I bought a tub of ready made polyfiller from the pound shop but have yet to use it as I like wall as it is. OH hasn't given me any grief either so she must think it characterful also.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Snadger View Post
                              I think imperfections give a wall a bit of character. I used lining paper in one room but just painted the walls in another. I bought a tub of ready made polyfiller from the pound shop but have yet to use it as I like wall as it is. OH hasn't given me any grief either so she must think it characterful also.
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