Leicestershire to be hit with a new 20000 home Eco town

[smallblueplanet]

Well all of you who voted for the current Government are getting what you deserve and should be ashamed of.....And they wonder why they are held in contempt!
:-(((

Of course the NHS & the education system were in such good Tory hands?

Get real! Plenty of people don't vote for the 'current' government (sometimes nearly as many as do vote for them!). I don't think they 'deserve' what they are getting.

[Tigerella]

Hi

All the main parties are very similar, so whoever you vote for, you will get the same. Unless you vote differently.

Vote this May.

But we still need to build more houses.

T

[smallblueplanet]

But we still need to build more houses.

How do you know this?

[mapcr77]

How do you know this?

With no reliable demographic information, I too wonder to what extent we really need more houses and how many...

[Tigerella]

Hi

Are you seriously saying that you think we do not need more houses?

We live in a free market economy, the people who build houses would only build more if they could sell them.
Would you prefer to live under another system?
It comes back to who you voted for.
Tesco only build another supermarket only if they think that they can sell their products.

T

[smallblueplanet]

Are you seriously saying that you think we do not need more houses?

I'm asking you how come you're so sure that this country needs more houses?

[beefy]

I'm asking you how come you're so sure that this country needs more houses?

Estate agents are still in business - people are still buying and selling houses . When that stops we don't need any more houses - simple really.

[Tigerella]

I'm asking you how come you're so sure that this country needs more houses?

Hi

It has nothing to do with me! The men with money decide, if they can sell houses and make a profit; that is how it works.
It works just the same way with cars and potatoes.

I need a house, if they were cheap enough, I could buy one.

T

[smallblueplanet]

I need a house, if they were cheap enough, I could buy one.

T

I'm sure if it was left to the builders they won't want to be selling cheap stuff? I'd have thought from your comments you'd be happy with a free-market economy (that prices stuff out of your reach)? But you seem to only want the free market in housing to exist with builders forced to build 'affordable' property as a condition of being allowed to build?

Anyway, back to 'do we really need all these new towns' - anyone know how the information is obtained?

[Tigerella]

But you seem to only want the free market in housing to exist with builders forced to build 'affordable' property as a condition of being allowed to build?

Anyway, back to 'do we really need all these new towns' - anyone know how the information is obtained?

Hi

I made the point that it is not me who decides, cheaper accommodation is usually older properties.
What information do you want to obtain?

T

[jacob marley]

To get back to original thread a snippet on local news tonight the proposal to build the new eco towns are very politicaly moved it stated that most of the place's where they want to build have conservative MP's jacob

[mapcr77]

Taken from a statement by the Campaign to Protect Rural England:

The Government has endorsed SUEs for the reasons above. Where then is the logic in imposing standalone mega-developments out in the sticks? Not only is there a democratic deficit in that the RSS plan-led process is being over-ridden by central government in this heavy-handed manner but there is a complete lack of reality behind these schemes. Does the Government really believe that the inhabitants of these eco-towns will remain under house arrest, living in some kind of gated community or open prison, where no one will commute and choke already badly congested roads? Does the Government really believe that the inhabitants of Pennbury will overcome congestion problems through a total reliance on public transport? Does the government believe that these eco-towns will address the issue of affordability? Meeting the near zero-carbon requirement adds a considerable cost to an eco-home. Another question hanging over the Pennbury problem is the extent to which this and other eco-town bids will starve areas in dire need of regeneration of vital funding.

Full version here: CPRE issues statement about eco-town shortlist - Harborough Today

[Tigerella]

Hi

In contrast with some other European countries, high foreign-born immigration is contributing to a rising population, accounting for about half of the population increase between 1991 and 2001. The latest official figures (2006) show net immigration to the UK of 191,000 (591,000 immigrants and 400,000 emigrants) up from 185,000 in 2005 (overall, there was a loss of 126,000 Britons and a gain of 316,000 foreign citizens). Only one in six were from Eastern European countries. They were outnumbered by immigrants from New Commonwealth countries. Immigration from the Indian subcontinent, mainly fuelled by family reunion, accounted for two-thirds of net immigration. By contrast, at least 5.5 million British-born people are living abroad. The most popular emigrant destinations were Australia, Spain, France, New Zealand and the U.S.
A study by a city forecaster, however, contends that the above immigration figures are unreliable and that net immigration for 2005 was circa 400,000. Nonetheless, the proportion of foreign-born people in the UK population remains slightly below that of some other European countries.
In 2004, the number of people who became British citizens rose to a record 140,795 - a rise of 12% on the previous year. This number had risen dramatically since 2000. The overwhelming majority of new citizens come from Africa (32%) and Asia (40%), the largest three groups being people from Pakistan, India and Somalia. In 2006, there were 149,035 applications for British citizenship, 32% fewer than in 2005. The number of people granted citizenship during 2006 was 154,095, 5% fewer than in 2005. The largest groups of people granted British citizenship were from India, Pakistan, Somalia and the Philippines. 21.9% of babies born in the UK in 2005 were born to foreign-born mothers, according to official statistics released in 2007 that also show the highest birth rates in Britain for 26 years.
Figures published in August 2007 indicate that 682,940 people applied to the Worker Registration Scheme (for nationals of the central and eastern European states that joined the EU in May 2004) between 1 May 2004 and 31 June 2007, of whom 656,395 were accepted. Self-employed workers and people who are not working (including students) are not required to register under the scheme so this figure represents a lower limit on immigration inflow. These figures do not indicate the number of immigrants who have since returned home, but 56% of applicants in the 12 months ending 30 June 2007 reported planning to stay for a maximum of three months, with net migration in 2005 from the new EU states standing at 64,000.
National Insurance Number data suggests that 2.5 million foreign workers moved to the UK to work (including those moving for short periods), the majority from EU countries, between 2002 and 2007.

A new property map of England - Times Online

I dont know too much about where we will put the needed housing, but we do need all we can build.

T

[smallblueplanet]

A new property map of England - Times Online

I dont know too much about where we will put the needed housing, but we do need all we can build.

Here's one of the comments copied from the above article

If it was a real housings crisis we would see tent cities cropping up.

Its a 'I want my perfect house, but can't afford it' crisis.

There's plenty of 2-3 bedroom terraces available in outer Manchester, but nooooo, I want my little house in a little estate with its little drive and bay windows.

But it doesn't really bother me.
Miles of beautiful countryside just minutes from the door. Keep the London sprawl going.

Its the decent countryside we need saving like the Lake District, Yorkshire Dales, Scotland, Wales and the SW that we need protecting.... not the flat, 'Ooo,-I've-found-an-acre-of-countryside-here' SE ;-)


But seriously... There's so much brownfield space to build on. Look at the old mining communities, the old industrial sites surrounding the cities etc. There are rows of houses laying empty in Liverpool and other industrial towns of the north.

Or are we all to posh to live there, so lets cry about a housing shortage and no space.

Jamie, big house for little cash, Halifax, West Yorkshire

[Tigerella]

Hi

I do agree that this island we live on is over-crowded, but sending people back to their country of origin is not an option, and off-topic.
It would be a good idea to stop all that we can coming in to this country.

T