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  • #61
    The question 'Do you believe in UFOs' is non-specific, in that it is actually taken to mean 'Do you believe that we are being visited by aliens from another world'. Taken literally it simply means; are there things seen in our skies which we can't identify? I've seen something which I couldn't explain. Boring. I won't go into details as there's nothing worse than other peoples 'experiences'. However just because I couldn't explain it doesn't mean that someone with all the facts, or even viewing it from another angle, would have found it at all mysterious.

    Scientists look for carbon-based life-forms, partly because that is what they understand, but mainly because carbon behaves in such a way as to make life possible. The methane based argument is redundant as methane comprises of carbon (CH4), therefore 'methane-based', would be carbon-based and it is an organic (formed from living matter) molecule. It is thought possible that silicon could also act in a similar way to carbon and so silicon is often considered too.

    There is a theory that a certain eco-system in deep ocean vents evolved completely separately from all other life on earth and as this too is carbon-based, despite living in an area with high concentrations of other chemicals (including silicon), it follows that there is a perogative for carbon. (This is just a theory as so far no-one has fully traced the evolutionary path of these organisms). Our understanding of what actually comprises life, - the science lesson list of sensitivity, movement, feeding, etc, - would probably fall apart if we were presented with anything other than a carbon/silicon-based life-form, so the question is; if we found it, would we recognise it? Our search therefore is not so much for life, but for life we can recognise and understand. Arrogant in some ways, but it is impossible to search for that which is beyond our understanding - truly alien in every sense of the word. The universe is unimaginably huge, there has to be something out there, but whether it could ever visit us - or even be capable of that very human need to explore and colonise - is something else entirely.

    However, did I tell you I once saw this really weird........
    Into each life some rain must fall........but this is getting ridiculous.

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    • #62
      Some interesting points Bluemoon. I do think that one of the bigest problems with 'the search for other life' is that we do seem to imagine alien life to have desires like humans do (thirst for knowledge, travel etc). They could be here already, after all, who said they would be visible to the human eye! If that sounds a bit to science-fiction, then for those that don't know, scientists can already make objects (and therefore humans) invisible!

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      • #63
        Originally posted by seed addiction View Post
        Some interesting points Bluemoon. I do think that one of the bigest problems with 'the search for other life' is that we do seem to imagine alien life to have desires like humans do (thirst for knowledge, travel etc). They could be here already, after all, who said they would be visible to the human eye! If that sounds a bit to science-fiction, then for those that don't know, scientists can already make objects (and therefore humans) invisible!
        I agree seed adiction and as we evolve and are able to raise our own vibrations we will begin to see things that we previously couldn't see. I for example am beginging to see other energies like auras and chakras. I know thats a bit hard for others to believe but it's true!
        Last edited by lainey lou; 17-03-2008, 10:40 AM.
        Imagination is everything, it is a preview of what is to become.

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        • #64
          It's life Jim, but not as we know it.

          Slightly cliche' I know, but I think there is a lot of truth in that particular quote.

          Not a million years ago, the general scientific consensus was that the Earth was flat.

          Who's to say that there isn't life out there - it just may not be life as we know it, based on our current unsderstanding/knowledge.

          I'm open to any suggestion, if it makes sense to me, then it makes sense to me.
          A simple dude trying to grow veg. http://haywayne.blogspot.com/

          BLOG UPDATED! http://haywayne.blogspot.com/2012/01...ar-demand.html 30/01/2012

          Practise makes us a little better, it doesn't make us perfect.


          What would Vedder do?

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          • #65
            Oooh one of my fave subjects....
            Mapcr77--- Small Blue Dot--Carl Sagon?

            Just for fun...type in Denver airport, NO not the flight arrivals, try the 'other' sites!!!

            very very odd if partly true
            Have a look, let me know your views please.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by beefy View Post

              UFO's
              Warewolve's
              Ghost's
              Vampires
              Little Green Men
              Things that go bump in the night
              Fairies
              Loch Ness monster
              Mermaids
              Piskies
              I'll get me coat

              Geo..

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              • #67
                bluemoon....really weird what!!!!

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                • #68
                  I see lots of UFOs.
                  Seriously.
                  They appear about 21:30 after 2 quadruple G&Ts.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by bluemoon View Post
                    The methane based argument is redundant as methane comprises of carbon (CH4), therefore 'methane-based', would be carbon-based and it is an organic (formed from living matter) molecule.
                    T'were a joke m'dearie... Meaning botty burps have a life of their own!
                    Let's go diggin' dirt....

                    Big silver bird, come land low and slow
                    Cut your engines, cool your wings,
                    You've taken me home...

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by madmax View Post
                      T'were a joke m'dearie... Meaning botty burps have a life of their own!
                      I understood that you were making a joke, Max, but someone else picked it up and ran with it, demanding a serious explanation.
                      Into each life some rain must fall........but this is getting ridiculous.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by HeyWayne View Post
                        It's life Jim, but not as we know it.

                        Slightly cliche' I know, but I think there is a lot of truth in that particular quote.

                        Not a million years ago, the general scientific consensus was that the Earth was flat.

                        Who's to say that there isn't life out there - it just may not be life as we know it, based on our current unsderstanding/knowledge.

                        I'm open to any suggestion, if it makes sense to me, then it makes sense to me.
                        Who sez the Earths NOT flat?There's still a 'Flat Earth Society'
                        My Majesty made for him a garden anew in order
                        to present to him vegetables and all beautiful flowers.- Offerings of Thutmose III to Amon-Ra (1500 BCE)

                        Diversify & prosper


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                        • #72
                          The trouble with UFOs in the modern world is : the internet. If they were real, proof would be all round the world by now.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by piskieinboots
                            good on ya Mrs c2b for starting a lively thread
                            Maybe she didn't, maybe the aliens already have her and made her do it?

                            I'm not making light of it honestly, I have humourtourettes.
                            A simple dude trying to grow veg. http://haywayne.blogspot.com/

                            BLOG UPDATED! http://haywayne.blogspot.com/2012/01...ar-demand.html 30/01/2012

                            Practise makes us a little better, it doesn't make us perfect.


                            What would Vedder do?

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by seed addiction View Post
                              Some interesting points Bluemoon. I do think that one of the bigest problems with 'the search for other life' is that we do seem to imagine alien life to have desires like humans do (thirst for knowledge, travel etc). They could be here already, after all, who said they would be visible to the human eye! If that sounds a bit to science-fiction, then for those that don't know, scientists can already make objects (and therefore humans) invisible!
                              what are you referring to when you talk about disappearing objects etc

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by piskieinboots
                                good on ya Mrs c2b for starting a lively thread
                                ooohhhh it is a bit isn't it pib

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