Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeekkkk!!!!!!

[Mikey]

Because tootles so many people who are not able to do the work pick up a DIY book, and add onto circuits that are not safe to do so, or put sockets in locations which are not safe.

The one's I see frequently are sockets behind hobs or in reach of a sink full of water. The system is there to protect you, from potential hazards that previous owners of your home may have done. Also to protect others from work you may do, just because you can wire a socket or create an extension, doesn't mean you understand when what you are doing is safe and legal.

Current electrical laws have changed so much in the last couple of years that a lot of NICEIC electrician are finding it tough keeping upto date with what they can and cannot do, let alone the average layperson.

[Mikey]

The reasons for us to came back to the UK are dwindling!!!!!

We are never short of water.

[tootles]

Because tootles so many people who are not able to do the work pick up a DIY book, and add onto circuits that are not safe to do so, or put sockets in locations which are not safe.

The one's I see frequently are sockets behind hobs or in reach of a sink full of water. The system is there to protect you, from potential hazards that previous owners of your home may have done. Also to protect others from work you may do, just because you can wire a socket or create an extension, doesn't mean you understand when what you are doing is safe and legal.

Current electrical laws have changed so much in the last couple of years that a lot of NICEIC electrician are finding it tough keeping upto date with what they can and cannot do, let alone the average layperson.

As you are clearly a sparky type chap, you will 'like' this...
Here in France it is the norm to have a socket in the bathroom.

While we were still in the UK husband looked into a change of trade - to plumbing and electrical, he is very competant in both, but nowhere would just let him take the qualifications, they all thought he should spend years being taught stuff he already knows (and paying for the privilege) before taking an exam.
I accept that the world is full of well intentioned idiots - but why reduce everything to the lowest common denominator.

[Mikey]

To ensure that everyone is following the same hymn sheet.

You can have a socket in the bathroom here to, but it has to be in a particular zone.

[tootles]

To ensure that everyone is following the same hymn sheet.

I prefer Bert Bacharach!!!

[lynda66]

I accept that the world is full of well intentioned idiots - but why reduce everything to the lowest common denominator.

cos the world is full of well intentioned idiots

when i moved into my old house, i found there were 4 plug sockets on the lighting circuit ...... which was fine till you actually plugged anything in, then the fuse blew. and the shower didn't have a separate circuit either, so using the shower and anything else at the same time, blew the fuses too.

[Mikey]

I prefer Bert Bacharach!!!

Didn't he write a track called 'A house is not a home', what does he know eh!!

[tootles]

I have a friend who's neighbours moved into their new mill conversion, and none of the lights worked.
They weren't wired. nothing. no sockets. no immersion heater. no oven. nothing.
All the switches and sockets and oven and heaters etc were there, but there was no wiring!!
Much safer.....

[Mikey]

Probably couldn't get an electrician.

[quark1]

Hope your new toy is now up and running and saving your hands!

Remember when I bought my last washing machine. I wanted one which would easily take a double size winterweight quilt - so that narrowed down my choices. Was more than fed up having to wash in the bath each year - laundry costs so high you might as well buy a new one.

So on C**et's clearance site there is an auction facility where they get shot of returned, display or refurbed items.

I saw my dream machine - a wonderful American style top loader - plenty big enough to take my largest single item and do oodles of stuff in one hit. Simple with only 4 major settings - be honest how many do you ever use? I used about 3 on my machine before this. Hot/Cold water fed from own supplies - so I guess this minimises the build-up of c**p inside the machine. Put in a successful bid - bidding against another party and did the winning bid just a minute or so before the close! Got a £600 machine for £250 incl del!

Did measure before I got it. But when it was delivered it had all its packing on so the man could only take it as far as the kitchen door. It was destined for the sun lounge.

Off comes the packaging and still it would not go through the kitchen door - oops - I'm starting to get that brown corduroy trouser feeling. Off comes the kitchen door and in goes the machine. Then the darned thing wasn't going to go through the kitchen/sun lounge door - so off comes another door - easy I thought. B***er me - it wasn't going to go through again. My only option was to remove the door frame as well.

Which I did and with the help of my son was able to literally inch the thing into its new home- just about half-inch either side to spare! Attached all its bits and was HUGELY relieved not to have had to call for the thing to be taken back.

Its amazing what you can do on your own when that all you have to rely on and just a bit of muscle contributed by son!