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It's not compulsoury to join up BW .Yes its run as a youth club with an eye to recruitment but it's not compulsory. I was in the Army cadets for 5 years and went back as an Adult Instructor for 2 years . It was some of the best times I ever had met a lot a great guys who I'm still in touch with.Originally posted by bubblewrap View Post
I got to go to Germany to see the forces on patrol along the East / West German border and camp out for a night with them, spent 10 days in Marchwood military port at the time Chriss Akabussi was there (he was a PTI and took us for our morning runs
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Learned the skills of marksmanship(shooting) , fieldcraft (camping and hiking) and navigation (map and compass).
We also had to look after our huts - clean and polish them every day and learn how to keep our uniforms clean, tidy and ironed ( no mean feat for a 14 year old
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It was teambuilding, disipline and personal development and what ever other sound bites that the government has come up with since but it was good fun to.
I certainly don't regret my time there and would recomend it to anyone.There comes a point in your life when you realize who matters, who never did, who won't anymore and who always will. Don't worry about people from your past, there's a reason why they didn't make it in your future.Comment
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post above added before I read this - I agree with you on this BW. Soldiers only do what they are told - it's the politicians who start the wars .Originally posted by bubblewrap View PostPlease don't get me wrong I have no problem with our brave troops it's our stupid government who sent them there I have the problem with.
Last edited by beefy; 08-12-2008, 08:28 PM.There comes a point in your life when you realize who matters, who never did, who won't anymore and who always will. Don't worry about people from your past, there's a reason why they didn't make it in your future.Comment
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Sounds like an 'all-round' education Beefy? Some might call it holistic, but not me...To see a world in a grain of sand
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both my brothers did it, one in sea cadets one in the airforce equivelent, neither joined the service when they came of age, and i agree, it does have a lot going for it.Originally posted by beefy View PostIt's not compulsoury to join up BW .Yes its run as a youth club with an eye to recruitment but it's not compulsory. I was in the Army cadets for 5 years and went back as an Adult Instructor for 2 years . It was some of the best times I ever had met a lot a great guys who I'm still in touch with.
I got to go to Germany to see the forces on patrol along the East / West German border and camp out for a night with them, spent 10 days in Marchwood military port at the time Chriss Akabussi was there (he was a PTI and took us for our morning runs)
Learned the skills of marksmanship(shooting) , fieldcraft (camping and hiking) and navigation (map and compass).
We also had to look after our huts - clean and polish them every day and learn how to keep our uniforms clean, tidy and ironed ( no mean feat for a 14 year old ).
It was teambuilding, disipline and personal development and what ever other sound bites that the government has come up with since but it was good fun to.
I certainly don't regret my time there and would recomend it to anyone.
I get where Bubblewrap is coming from, last BIG intake got sent to the falklands, and its been downhill from there.
And cadets is a far cry from the real thing, that can do a lot of damage to those that serve, and i don't mean physically, but coming back out into civi street, not all have the tools to cope, and they get less than no help.
I think we all want better for our children than what we have seen develop over the last 20 years.Vive Le Revolution!!!'Lets just stick it in, and see what happens?'
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what about Airmen and Sailors? - rowdy blighters if you ask meOriginally posted by beefy View Postaka
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Sailors know how to party on the town thoughOriginally posted by piskieinboots View Post
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Call it what you like - I hated school with a passion left as soon as I could - no O levels or A levels but was accepted into Agricultural college where I got my Diploma in Agriculture.Originally posted by smallblueplanet View Post
X+Y= G meant nothing to me at school - I never passed a maths exam while I was there but when I was at Agri college I got a Distinction in accounts because I "got it" when we were talking about cows + milk quota = money
Supose it's ironic that I ended up working in a school as a groundsman.
While I respect teachers and the job they do I can't get my head round the fact that some of them left school went to teacher training college and got a job in a school and have absolutely no experience of the working enviroment that they are supposedly preparing kids for . How can you prepare a child for something you have never really experienced yourself.There comes a point in your life when you realize who matters, who never did, who won't anymore and who always will. Don't worry about people from your past, there's a reason why they didn't make it in your future.Comment
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isn't this the case of 'those that can - do, those that can't - teach'...Originally posted by beefy View Postaka
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and those that can't do either go into politicsOriginally posted by piskieinboots View Post
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I guess it goes back to 15 years ago when there came such a shortage of teachers, no offence to anyone who teaches now, but the requirements were lowered.Originally posted by beefy View PostCall it what you like - I hated school with a passion left as soon as I could - no O levels or A levels but was accepted into Agricultural college where I got my Diploma in Agriculture.
X+Y= G meant nothing to me at school - I never passed a maths exam while I was there but when I was at Agri college I got a Distinction in accounts because I "got it" when we were talking about cows + milk quota = money
Supose it's ironic that I ended up working in a school as a groundsman.
While I respect teachers and the job they do I can't get my head round the fact that some of them left school went to teacher training college and got a job in a school and have absolutely no experience of the working enviroment that they are supposedly preparing kids for . How can you prepare a child for something you have never really experienced yourself.
i have a child in his first GCSE year, in the last three months only ONE teacher has set any homework, ONE!! she is 60, a french teacher, old school, believes homework should be beyond work done in class, and detention if you dont do it.This is despite me complaining constantly for two years that he is not being set sufficient homeworkl.
the rest rely on a computerized homework system, which they don't mark, or even check if the child has logged on, this I know for a fact, because he still hasn't been given the password by any teacher to log on with, and noone has noticed.
I am currently in dispute with the school only one teacher has in TWO years replied until this week, and thats was the same french teacher, the maths teacher emailed me and told me the homework is up on the computerized site, despite being asked which tier callum should be working on, and what the password is, he neglected to reply to the email specifically.Even His form teacher has tried to get a reply from her own colleagues several times without success. I am at a loss, next week i shall attend the school, and they will wish thay hadn't let it go that far.Last edited by BrideXIII; 08-12-2008, 08:55 PM.Vive Le Revolution!!!'Lets just stick it in, and see what happens?' Cigarette FREE since 07-01-09 Comment
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When teachers are valued so, then I guess you get the profession you deserve...Originally posted by piskieinbootsTo see a world in a grain of sand
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Piskie didn't make up that quote, its been around for decades, and i doubt anyone on here doesn't 'value' teachers, what i cannot stand, is the fact they are being asked, by the government, to do more than they should need to, things they are not TRAINED for, and then have to take the brunt of the blame, when the blame should squarely lie with an incompetent governement's policies which have been forced on those teachers.Originally posted by smallblueplanet View Post
you can either take quick offence, or see the REAL underlying support for people who try against the odds to do a job which is no longer about what teaching should be.Vive Le Revolution!!!'Lets just stick it in, and see what happens?' Cigarette FREE since 07-01-09 Comment
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I wasn't very happy when I was sitting in a school sink full of cold water after being caned on the arse!
Teacher had a beaming smile on his face though.......sadistic git!
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PMSL naughty snadge, point taken though, there are some things that HAVE changed for the better................maybe?Originally posted by Snadger View PostI wasn't very happy when I was sitting in a school sink full of cold water after being caned on the arse!
Teacher had a beaming smile on his face though.......sadistic git!Vive Le Revolution!!!'Lets just stick it in, and see what happens?' Cigarette FREE since 07-01-09 Comment
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