Originally posted by sarraceniac
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1. Yes, Gordon Brown was not elected as our countries PM, so is that not illegal by law?
2. Money is paper and debt is a number, money dosen't exist if you really look into the facts of modern history, money is an invention and so is debt.
3. The reason we are in debt (worldwide) is because of an organisation called the Federal Reserve which is illegal and has been illegal since 1913 (The bank of England has very close ties to them)
4. The only true worldwide, recognised currency is gold, can be sold, traded, invested and used to buy goods where the Pound or Dollar wouldn't in any country in the world.
5. Banks have been lending (illegally) to people for hundreds of years, why is it only now that we have this global credit crunch and we blame ourselves. Name a bank that would lend to a customer that had bad credit history (or no job), that's what they are telling us is the cause for this so-called crisis.
Why would a bank do this in the first place?? Lend money for a mortgage that had little hope of being paid back....I think not...but this is the reason given, banks selling on bad debt!
6. Nobody seen it coming??
7. Why does our un-elected Pm endorse a world-wide overhaul of the financial systems, a central bank controlling world currency (google this!)
Google 'One world currency'.
Why is it that each political party with their new radical plans for the country (Liberal, Cons, Lab) always fail, nothing changes, it's the same book with a different cover, they don't care, simple really when you look at the facts....NOTHING CHANGES!
It gets worse!
If you study the reasoning behind all of the above you will see that Bush, Obama, Brown and the rest are all singing the same song and it aint God bless America or land of hope & Glory.
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The Goverment is elected to serve the people, not the other way around, no, a Government is not elected, it is chosen and not by the voters, Bill Clinton was chosen as a future President in 1976.
As for the above question, the Prime Minister has not been 'elected' by the people to serve them, hence it's illegal, why can such a man send people to war, raise taxes etc and not be accountable! I find this a little bit disturbing, a general election should have been called on all counts giving the people the choice, the freedom of choice to choose who they want to 'lead' the country.
How can an unelcted Prime Minister have such power and why, if the the government serves the people, can't we demand a general election now, reason, we have no choice in the matter, like the famous saying....'No matter who you vote for, the government always gets in"
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Originally posted by mrsc2b View PostDon't you think we have a right to choose who we have as a PM? I do, the same as the Americans should have the right but that was rigged.
the parties vote their own leaders, that's not down to us, that internal.The party can force a leadership election if it wants to , but that wont change the party in power, and they wont do it just cos we don't like who they picked to lead them.
so if you dont like the prime minister, you have to wait for a general election and vote in a different party, not a different person.
technically we are supposed to vote for policies not personalities, i think we all recognise that that hasn't happened for quite a while now.Last edited by BrideXIII; 08-01-2009, 12:13 AM.Vive Le Revolution!!!'Lets just stick it in, and see what happens?'Cigarette FREE since 07-01-09
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Originally posted by mrsc2b View PostDon't you think we have a right to choose who we have as a PM? I do, the same as the Americans should have the right but that was rigged.
The Americans have a president he does not take any part in the Senate (law making body) the senate can be republican while he president is democrat.
Our system is difficult (almost impossible) to fix
I was involved in every election at all levels 1978-2005.The river Trent is lovely, I know because I have walked on it for 18 years.
Brian Clough
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Originally posted by BrideXIII View Postwe only have the right to vote for a particular party, note your ballot paper, you vote labour or conservative, not brown or cameron.
the parties vote their own leaders, that's not down to us, that internal.The party can force a leadership election if it wants to , but that wont change the party in power, and they wont do it just cos we don't like who they picked to lead them.
so if you dont like the prime minister, you have to wait for a general election and vote in a different party, not a different person.
technically we are supposed to vote for policies not personalities, i think we all recognise that that hasn't happened for quite a while now.
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there isn't one party any better than the other, we are in this mess due to greed. how many people knew that house prices couldn't carry on rising as they were? borrowing 5x salary and 125% mortgages was just ludicrous. now we all have to suffer.
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Originally posted by mrsc2b View PostSo if you had the choice right now and oust someone, who would you vote for?
personally all parties are the same to me, but i think if you turn them around often enough they don't have enough time to do any long term damage, and the civil service can get on with running the country without too much interferenceVive Le Revolution!!!'Lets just stick it in, and see what happens?'Cigarette FREE since 07-01-09
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Originally posted by mrsc2b View PostSo if you had the choice right now and oust someone, who would vote for?
Who I vote for does not matter.
It is our system you don't seem to understand.
If you Google Representation of the people act you might get some information.
Warning there are pages of it
Our system and the American system are totally different.Last edited by bubblewrap; 08-01-2009, 12:28 AM.The river Trent is lovely, I know because I have walked on it for 18 years.
Brian Clough
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