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also Ging hun, in addition to stuff above - if you dig deep into the Vine (!!) you will find I have/had/often have this problem - darling TEB tried to help me - if you go to my Profile and look at 'Threads started by herself' you'll find them....although you may be some time and may prefer to just smash the darn thing!
I'm up and running and things are fine and dandy....O.H's brother is a bit of a whiz when it comes to hi-tech stuff...me, i just sit in la la land, but as i said earlier THANKS GUYS N DOLLS, its so nice to know there's someone out there that's willing to help...other than that, i could have always taken a baseball bat to it
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