what on earth is going on?

[ginger ninger]

OMG...My heart goes out to you and your boy, you must have been terrified, I do hope your feeling a bit more positive this morning, I'm sat here shaking my head at the utter cheek of this so called "Youth of today"
Disgusting absolutely disgusting , THIS is not acceptable behavior, what have the police done about it other than take your statements? Have they arrested the youths, been in touch with there parents, done anything constructive basically?
The problem is if you'd have defended your self (hit back), it would have been you in the poo, some kids think they can get away with what ever they want, and the law lets them do it.
Remember....not all kids are bad, its the "Bad apple" syndrome.
Give your lad a (((((big hug))))) from me and I hope he's ok with his exams.

[Rhona]

adults (all of us) should probably treat each other with more respect too. Less swearing, less road-rage, remember our Ps and Qs. Set a good example

I think this is a very good point. It's vital for parents to set a good example.

What a terrible experience for you - so upsetting. I really hope you start to feel better soon. x

[Brengirl]

When we find a bad egg, in any context, it is usually neglect that is the culprit. Right or wrong I believe that the Court of Human Rights has a lot to answer for. Give me a Court of Social Justice that could overide the individual in favour of the community.

[quark1]

Disgraceful episode - hope you're both feeling a bit better soon.

Parents who discipline their kids or threaten to are watched for 6 weeks by the police and then placed on a council register fo 14 years (until youngest 18), following an incident to promise to discipline unacceptable behaviour in public, and yet it is unlikely that this woman's kids will be a problem. Outstanding! PC gone mad.

The same day a report of a drunken youth who responded to being asked to stop swearing in front of a 13yr old girl by her mother, turns on the woman, knocking her senseless and causing an eye to have to be removed - ok so he gets 6 yrs in a young offender's place - but will be out in 3 most like.

We need firm discipline brough back at all levels and parents/neighbours/adults/teachers/police etc should be strongly supported when they try and stop youngsters going off the rails and those who have washed their hands of responsibility, such as schools, should step up to the plate as a matter of urgency (imho). There is a world of difference between smacking or grounding where necessary and 'beating' and false 'imprisonment' - both emotive words used by the guilty to their advantage to shock everyone into submission to allow breeding of a feral generation. Plus a surety of knowlege that, if caught, they can expect a heavy penalty - particularly for violence.

My sympathies MrsW.

[Polly Fouracre]

A bloody good hiding is what they need!! Then they can have the training in thinking of others etc.
MrsW, you must feel murderous. How on earth would you feel if the police came round and told you YOUR son had done that to someone! It makes me cross!!!

[FionaH]

Grounding=false imprisonment? Dear me hope no one tells my youngest that. When he got grounded it was for real, no TV, no computer, no X box. He either read or did chores, that was it.

The result is a 16 year old lad who can clean kitchens really well

[janeyo]

sorry folks gonna have bit of a rant.

Last night at 8 o'clock I picked my 15 yr old son and his mate up from his youth club, well the long and short of my rant is that we were attacked by a group of lads ranging in age from about 13 to 16/17? I was smaked in the face and my son is now modelling a cut cheek and black eye. We then spent a good 2 hours in the police station making statements. Poor lov's got an exam this morning, i'm quite shaken and not sure if i can face work as i've been up all night (what makes it worse is that i work at a school so will be surrounded by lads of this age)


I just can't believe that this has happened and i can't even walk to fetch my son at 8pm on a sunday evening..........is there no respect left in this country or have we just breed a load of thugs, what is going on, in my day you wouldn't even look at another kids parents in 'the wrong way' let alone have the gaul to hit them and egg your mates to thumping the kids..

sorry, just tired,stressed and bl@@dy furious

That's terrible.
The school can write a letter to the exam board and he may get extenuating circumstances when the papers are marked.

[Brengirl]

Sorry folks but discipline begins before 'bloody good hidings'. By that time we have lost the plot.

[Hilary B]

Sorry folks but discipline begins before 'bloody good hidings'. By that time we have lost the plot.

On the whole, yes, but if proper discipline has been neglected a 'bloody good hiding' MIGHT make the individual take notice of the next (rather less heavy handed) stage.
More measured corporal punishment DOES have its place, because not every parent/child combination will get anywhere if it is totally excluded. For those who can make things work that way, great, but if a smack is what it takes, refusing to smack can be disastrous!
Someone once told me that smacking a child is an admission of failure. So be it, I'd rather admit to a degree of failure and go from there than try to pretend all is well when it isn't!

[Brengirl]

On the whole, yes, but if proper discipline has been neglected a 'bloody good hiding' MIGHT make the individual take notice of the next (rather less heavy handed) stage.
More measured corporal punishment DOES have its place, because not every parent/child combination will get anywhere if it is totally excluded. For those who can make things work that way, great, but if a smack is what it takes, refusing to smack can be disastrous!
Someone once told me that smacking a child is an admission of failure. So be it, I'd rather admit to a degree of failure and go from there than try to pretend all is well when it isn't!

Indeed Hilary but there is a world of difference between a 'bloody good hiding' and a smack. I have only ever smacked my kids in anger (or to put it bluntly 'bloody frustration'. Was I wrong to let them know they had pushed me beyond the point of reasoning. When I cried in repentance..I think they understood. In future they tried not to make me cry.

[Glutton4...]

I'm speechless MrsW, I just don't know what this country is coming to. I really don't.

I hope you and your Son are feeling better now, and that the exams went ok. I really don't know what else to say I'm stunned.

[binley100]

So sorry and angry to hear what happened. Ther seems to be something amiss with a section of society these days. Kids learn by example so it makes you wonder what their parents are like. Respect for other people and their belongings is something to be taught from and early age.

I hope that you and your son recover from this horrific experience quickly.
Big hugs. xx

[mrswadders]

thankyou all for your very kind words. I ended up being sent home from work early yesterday - just couldn't cope with lots of teenagers swarming about and absolutely exhausted. The shock hasn't set in with my son yet - although the bruising has. He's milking the sympathy from all the girls!
The police have a lead on the culprits so hopefully they'll manage to catch whoever did it.

The one thing that keeps going round in my head is 'what would have happened if I hadn't been there? he could be hospital now or worse' I hope they catch these b*****ds soon before they do worse to somebody else's child.

Once again thankyou all so much.......

Mrs M

[OllieMartin]

Not sure how I've only just read this thread.

Sounds awful. Hope you both start feeling better soon.
There's nothing like the attention of a year full of school girls and some good cuts and bruises to get a lad over an ordeal (trust me ). I just hope you can find an equivalent.

hugs and kisses x

[SueA]

Hope you're feeling a bit better today & that your son is O.K. now. Hopefully they will get caught & get their just rewards!