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Originally posted by Bigmallly View PostEnglish must be such a hard language to learn. Not only do we have lazy apostrophes but also words that sound the same with different spellings. i.e coughing, coffin. brough, brow or is it brough bruff?There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those that understand binary and those that don't.
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sigpic“Gorillas are very intelligent, but they don't have to be as delicate as chimps -- they can just smash open the termite nest,”
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Originally posted by HotStuff View PostAnd then of course there is the example popularly attributed to George Bernard Shaw that "ghoti" can be pronounced "fish"
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One of my biggest gripes, if I'm being petty, is invites instead of invitations - drives me potty
The is another, but I cannot remember it at the moment ...Last edited by Glutton4...; 25-11-2009, 04:02 PM.All the best - Glutton 4 Punishment
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Originally posted by Glutton4... View PostOne of my biggest gripes, if I'm being petty, is Invites instead of invitations - drives me pottyCurrent Executive Board Members at Ollietopia Inc:
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Positioning of commas and apostrophes is a bit of bugbear for me when I'm proofreading someone's work, but my own problem is reading my own workHayley B
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I used to 'pull my hair out' when my 11 year old Son (at the time) used to bring is English homework home....when he was at Primary (here in France), I used to go through his work and check it for him, I was appalled at the use of......won't, isn't, I'm, I'll....the list is endless....this is obviously how they are teaching the French children to speak and learn English!! I used to go over it with a 'red pen' ...although to be honest, I think my son was too embarrassed to show his teacher, as I never had any response! Needless to say that my Son's written English after 10 years here is not as good as his French! Saying that, I know that today's English is more often than not abbreviated in speech, but surely to learn the correct way first is more important especially at school.
Mr TK is at the moment writing a book, which I am editing for him! I go through it trying to correct the English with my ex-secretarial 'hat' on which annoys him no end, but as he says it should be written as 'spoken' in some parts of the dialogue. However, his use of commas, full stops and exclamation marks leaves a lot to be desired!
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Using won't in speak or informal communication such as this is fine but I'd neve use it in a formal letter. Was taught to always write out in full in such circumstances.
Also, isn't the shortened version of would not wouldn't not won't, totally different tense surely?
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Originally posted by HayleyB View PostPositioning of commas and apostrophes is a bit of bugbear for me when I'm proofreading someone's work
Originally posted by Alison View PostAlso, isn't the shortened version of would not wouldn't not won't, totally different tense surely?sigpic“Gorillas are very intelligent, but they don't have to be as delicate as chimps -- they can just smash open the termite nest,”
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Alison - I was taught much along the same lines. Abbreviations are a strict no-no in any written communication - however, I have started using them on t'internet
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Originally posted by Bigmallly View PostShould that not be someones' work?.................There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those that understand binary and those that don't.
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Originally posted by HotStuff View PostSorry to disagree Mal, but someone's is right as it is indicating possession, i.e. belonging to someone. Unless of course you can pluralise (?) someone to be a number of someonessigpic“Gorillas are very intelligent, but they don't have to be as delicate as chimps -- they can just smash open the termite nest,”
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Originally posted by HotStuff View PostSorry to disagree Mal, but someone's is right as it is indicating possession, i.e. belonging to someone. Unless of course you can pluralise (?) someone to be a number of someones
If there is only one person doing the work; then it would be someone's
I'd say, as there would only be one person doing the work at any one time; then it is someone's.
[plus, there is no such word as someoneses - which is how it would be said].
Which takes us back to the original query, in that won't may well be will not abbreviated; but as you can't actually say willn't; it gets changed to won't so that you can actually say it.Last edited by zazen999; 25-11-2009, 06:40 PM.
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Originally posted by zazen999 View PostIf there is a range of people doing the work; then it would be someones'
If there is only one person doing the work; then it would be someone's
I'd say, as there would only be one person doing the work at any one time; then it is someone's.
[plus, there is no such word as someoneses - which is how it would be said].
Which takes us back to the original query, in that won't may well be will not abbreviated; but as you can't actually say willn't; it gets changed to won't so that you can actually say it.sigpic“Gorillas are very intelligent, but they don't have to be as delicate as chimps -- they can just smash open the termite nest,”
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