Let's lose a bit of weight

[annacruachan]

A study in Australia .. found that the Atkins diet is, along with Weight Watchers, the most successful of all time; slimmers lose on average 11 pounds in two months on the carbohydrate-free diet. Atkins: A diet you can trust? - Healthy Living, Health & Families - The Independent

Had not read that one, T-S, but I'm not surprised.

[smallblueplanet]

Why are you so angry about this? You are free to eat as you please - and so am I. Many people don't find it as easy as you obviously do, but that does not mean that your way is right for everyone...

I'm not angry at all - I'm just giving an opposing point of view - why does that upset you so?

[smallblueplanet]

Had not read that one, T-S, but I'm not surprised.

You've still not read it - as I said its not a link to the study but an article about someone talking about Atkins diet.

[janeyo]

My ww leader always maintains that when you give up bread for a week and switch to cracker bread or some such you have a much better loss that week.

[smallblueplanet]

Remember the big picture: Populations that stick to traditional high-carbohydrate diets (for example, Asian rice-based diets) typically have low rates of obesity and diabetes.

Why the Vegan Diet is Best - Diabetes Health

So how does that work then according to Atkins?

Well anyone know the answer?

[annacruachan]

I'm not angry at all - I'm just giving an opposing point of view - why does that upset you so?

No you're not just giving an opposing view, you're using emotive language about something which you have not experienced, and being fairly dismissive of those who don't think as you do. Why not leave people to choose their own way of losing weight?

[Two_Sheds]

Well anyone know the answer?

I'm sure you're dying to tell us!

[Two_Sheds]

That isn't a link to the study, just someone who's a 'convert' ranting about it...

OK ...Atkins Is Best Diet Around, Says Stanford University Study

It was a year-long study, and no evidence of health problems were found in those on the Atkins.

[smallblueplanet]

I'm sure you're dying to tell us!

No, I'm asking you Atkins fans why that study says the total opposite to what you are on about?

I imagine that's not as popular a diet because it by Vegans but as it says high carb diets are linked to low rates of obesity & diabetes - its actually on a diabetes site - I wanted to know what the answer was.

[Two_Sheds]

I'd struggle on the Atkins plan as although I'm not a veggie, I don't eat a huge amount of meat.

I did the strict plan for 2 weeks, I think I was eating mushroom omelettes for brekky, and prolly the same for lunch and dinner

Nowadays I tend to eat a bowl of beans and/or feta & salad (or stirfry) with a small helping of carbs (rice or noodles), nice salad dressing. I make veggies the main act. Plenty of protein in those beans!

It's quite an Asian way of eating, in fact it's how food was served when I was in Singapore last year... lots of veg, not piles & piles of rice & bread. In Asia, obesity isn't as prevalent as it is in the Western world (or wasn't). Diabetes and heart disease are also very rare. Studies have linked this to the fact that Asian diets consist mostly of plant-based foods and are low in saturated fats.

I didn't mean to go on and on about Atkins, my point was more that cutting carbs down can really help with weight-loss.

[Hilary B]

BMI only 'works' for people in the middle of 'normal height' range. A person 2m tall (6ft 6) weighing 120kg (just under 19st) has a BMI of 30, but may be a VERY fit athlete!
There is probably a genetic factor in how readily one can resist them temptation of enjoyable food, so to that extent, it IS genetic.
Me, I need to lose lots of weight, but I'm setting my target at ½st, until I get that far.
My problems are
a) limited won't power
b) a husband who likes all the nice things, and assumes they are for sharing (he needs to lose weight too, but tends to do so by not eating for a week, which I simply couldn't do if I wanted to)

[Glutton4...]

I believe that this thread was started as a friendly laid back support group for a group of us who wanted to lose weight, I feel we have drifted ...?

[smallblueplanet]

No you're not just giving an opposing view, you're using emotive language about something which you have not experienced, and being fairly dismissive of those who don't think as you do. Why not leave people to choose their own way of losing weight?

You were the one linking weight loss to psychological problems not me- that seems highly emotive?

I'm leaving people to chose - I'm giving my opinion as you are yours - they have the choice, where have I denied them a choice? You seem to have a problem with anyone who disagrees with you?

[FionaH]

Getting back to the carbs thing. About once a month I really crave fats and carbs. At that point all I can think about is fish and chips, I actually start obsessing about it! I could do with losing a stone, would be happy with half. I have made myself go for a walk each day for the last week which was about a mile and thankfully most of the chocolate has gone now

For me I think some of the problem is bad body image. I am 5ft 1 and for a long time I was 7 stone so in my head I think I should still be that shape. The reality was that at that point in my life I was physically and emotionally quite ill. (for that read as mad as a fish!) I need to re educate myself about what is a healthy wieght for my size and accept that curves are acceptable

[FionaH]

I believe that this thread was started as a friendly laid back support group for a group of us who wanted to lose weight, I feel we have drifted ...?

Thats what I thought

You were the one linking weight loss to psychological problems not me- that seems highly emotive?

I'm leaving people to chose - I'm giving my opinion as you are yours - they have the choice, where have I denied them a choice? You seem to have a problem with anyone who disagrees with you?

SBP do you want to lose any wieght? If so share your plan, if not leave us that do to get on with it please?