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  • Water cannot be organic

    So it said on the carton of kidney beans I opened last night.

    Sainsburys So Organic red kidney beans in water - packaged in an "eco-friendly" carton rather than a tin.

    I'd never thought about it before - water being organic that is.
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  • #2
    well, it's not synthetic ... is it?
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    • #3
      Had a very quick look and found this:

      Can salt and water be certified organic under the National Organic Program? - eXtension
      Last edited by HeyWayne; 16-02-2010, 09:09 AM.
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      • #4
        Well I suppose if you think about the processes tap water goes through before it comes out your tap the only 'organic' water would be spring water but then who knows what chemicals it's picked up in the atmosphere. How about distilled water?
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        • #5
          and spring water will surely gather microbes along the way
          aka
          Suzie

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          • #6
            So is there such a thing as 100% organic?
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            • #7
              Unless there is a way to 100% sterilise water - the short answer is NO...!
              All vehicles now running 100% biodiesel...
              For a cleaner, greener future!

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              • #8
                But by that rationale, since all food contains some quantity of water, then nothing is organic!
                I'd be interested to know if anyone can think of something MORE organic than water.
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                • #9
                  Microbes are organic aren't they? Boiling water would sterilise it but then that would be considered synthetic. Spring water straight out the ground would count I reckon.
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                  • #10
                    I wish I hadn't looked at this. I can feel a headache coming on, lol!

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                    • #11
                      HW just wants us to get the grey matter working. Stop us from vegetating so to speak.
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                      • #12
                        Following my research:

                        For a food to be organic it must:
                        a) Meet specific requirements in terms of its content (E.g. a certain percentage must be unaltered, natural produce.
                        b) Meet specific requirements in terms of its production (From farms to shops if they process the food in any way)
                        c) Be inspected and approved by bodies such as the Soil Association, Organic Farmers and Growers or the Organic Food Federation.

                        I'd suggest that water passes both 'a' and 'b', but I doubt it's been inspected for organicness and hence has not been 'certified' as organic.
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                        • #13
                          I'm sure they wouldn't pass what comes out of our tap. Euurgh
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                          • #14
                            Yes, natural water is organic (with a little o) but it can not be certified Organic which I assume is what they mean. However, what we drink isn't natural in that various chemicals are put in it to make it safe to drink and if you're unlucky enough to live in an area where they add, for example fluride, then you're being medicated too!

                            Slightly off topic, these cartons which state they are eco friendly, what are they made of and can they be recycled? Don't know anything about them but do know that tins can be recycled whereas many plastics can't so can struggle to see them as eco friendly.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Alison View Post
                              Slightly off topic, these cartons which state they are eco friendly, what are they made of and can they be recycled? Don't know anything about them but do know that tins can be recycled whereas many plastics can't so can struggle to see them as eco friendly.
                              They can be recycled in our area - the Tetra type carton that is. I guess they weigh less, so use less fuel to transport. They are square/rectangular, so I presume they can be packed/stacked more easily and efficiently than round tins.

                              Not sure what's involved in the manufacturing process, but then I don't work in packaging.
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                              BLOG UPDATED! http://haywayne.blogspot.com/2012/01...ar-demand.html 30/01/2012

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