Daily Mail Con

[Paulottie]

I've said it before and I'll say it again; I reckon Blair and whichever Toff was in 'charge' of the Tories picked up the wrong briefcases several years ago; as this topsy turvey world we now live in can't make it's mind up what it wants or what it really stands for.

Yeah and while they were bickering about it that t*****r Brown slipped in unelected.

[weekendwellies]

I stopped buying papers a while back.
Why bother when I can switch on the telly for the news, or search the internet. And you lot all keep me up to date with what is going on too.
If a grape recommends an offer then I will take a look.

[zazen999]

Yeah and while they were bickering about it that t*****r Brown slipped in unelected.

You don't spell Tomato like that!!! Tomater?????

[Flummery]

Well, working-class origins Guardian reader that I am, I still would rather have an empty border than read the DM. So that's me then.

You can generalise all you like but people will read what they feel comfortable with.
And you can offer all the free bulbs you like and some people will still not buy your paper. Here endeth today's lesson!

[pigletwillie]

but if the Times is 'RW' then surely the Mail verges on the BNP (thinly politically correctly veiled of course)

Well, if the countrys second best selling paper is an outlet for the BNP it doesnt say much for our country does it?

But then the 2008, Guardian columnist Jackie Ashley claimed that the Guardian editorial contributors were a mix of "left-of-centre libertarians, greens, Blairites, Brownites, Labourite but less enthusiastic Brownites, etc" and that the newspaper was "clearly left of centre and vaguely progressive".

Surely then the Guardian verges on the Stazi, thinly politically correctly veiled of course as socialism as this government chips away at your freedoms.

[Flummery]

I never read the editorials. I decide for myself what to think.

[Jeanied]

You feeling OK PW? I have some Rennies if it helps.

[SarzWix]

I don't read the DM because I think it 'otherises' any person or group that doesn't fit with their white, middle-class male ideals, and seems to take pleasure in doing so.

[ginger ninger]

I never read the editorials. I decide for myself what to think.

Me as well Flum, I like to think living in a democratic society we can be allowed to say what we feel without upsetting the masses, but the bleeding hearts of politisions won't allow that, especially now there all fighting for our vote. Sorry if that sounds a little politicly incorrect.

You feeling OK PW? I have some Rennies if it helps.

I feel another cow thread coming on, what do you say Jeanie?

[pigletwillie]

You feeling OK PW? I have some Rennies if it helps.

Nah, I am ok, I just resent people being pigeon holed in the same way that people proffess the DM pigeon holes people. Stinks of double standards to me especially as they supposedly dont read it.

I consider myself fairly well educated and am capable of understanding debate and the slant of editorials and am capable of sifting political manouvering from news. I do tend to read the times but must say the guardian does have good sports coverage. The BNP as nasty as they are and indeed stories from some of the aforementioned papers only get the support they do because the liberal chattering class refuse to allow debate and the common man on the street looks for somebody who will listen to their views.

Take away the fuel and there is no fire!

[Jeanied]

Cuppa tea and a lie down then?

[ginger ninger]

Take away the fuel and there is no fire!

Very wise words there PW...very wise in deed

[Seahorse]

I would join in this debate but these bl**dy organic hemp knickers keep giving me wedgies...

I'm very firmly with Sarz though, the DM demonises anyone 'other', thereby pandering to the fears and insecurities of a large section of the population and exacerbating division and misunderstanding. And they do it purely to make money.

[bobleponge]

I'm very firmly with Sarz though, the DM demonises anyone 'other', thereby pandering to the fears and insecurities of a large section of the population and exacerbating division and misunderstanding. And they do it purely to make money.

And so that means that anyone who reads the Daily Mail isnt an
"other" and means they read and believe everything that is printed, unable to make up their own mind? Sorry, I just dont accept that.
And all papers are there to make money, just ask Mr Murdoch ...or Mr Black.

[pigletwillie]

I would join in this debate but these bl**dy organic hemp knickers keep giving me wedgies...

I'm very firmly with Sarz though, the DM demonises anyone 'other', thereby pandering to the fears and insecurities of a large section of the population and exacerbating division and misunderstanding. And they do it purely to make money.

Ahh but there is the rub, do people buy it because they are braying racists who are intolerant to anybody who are "other", or because the establishment has totally stiffled debate with the threat of being branted an "otherist" if you try to raise a concern about the social engineering being undertaken by the current administration.

The market is only there because large swathes of the population are marginalised.