breadmaker measuring cup size - MR 48265 - any ideas?

[swansea girl]

Hi all
I have just been offered a Morphy Richards bread maker for £10 (fantastic bargain,I think)without instructions after trawling the internet I found out it was a Morphy Richards bread maker model 48265 and have managed to find the instructions and recipes (woo hoo me ) but then saw that everything is measured in cups!

so I have been trying to find out if its a Morphy Richards SPECIAL size cup or if it a standard measure cup which I think is half a pint/16 tablespoons ???(I may be wrong about that too)

Please help...if you've got 1 could you check and let me know

Thanks

[PAULW]

Volume Conversions: Normally used for liquids only
Customary quantity Metric equivalent

1 teaspoon 5 mL
1 tablespoon or 1/2 fluid ounce 15 mL
1 fluid ounce or 1/8 cup 30 mL
1/4 cup or 2 fluid ounces 60 mL
1/3 cup 80 mL
1/2 cup or 4 fluid ounces 120 mL
2/3 cup 160 mL
3/4 cup or 6 fluid ounces 180 mL
1 cup or 8 fluid ounces or half a pint 240 mL
1 1/2 cups or 12 fluid ounces 350 mL
2 cups or 1 pint or 16 fluid ounces 475 mL
3 cups or 1 1/2 pints 700 mL
4 cups or 2 pints or 1 quart 950 mL
4 quarts or 1 gallon 3.8 L
Note: In cases where higher precision is not justified, it
may be convenient to round these conversions off as follows:
1 cup = 250 mL
1 pint = 500 mL
1 quart = 1 L

[SarzWix]

We were given a Kenwood bread machine with no instructions or measuring cup, and like you, I found the instruction/recipe book online as a PDF. But. Using a standard jug, or cup & spoon measures in place of the proper one just didn't work. The bread never works properly. We have found one recipe in an ordinary baking book which works okay, but to be honest it just sits in the cupboard being useless and taking up space while I use the mixer to make the bread dough!

[smallblueplanet]

Maybe try emailing MR with the breadmaker model and tell them you've lost the 'cup measure' and can they tell you what it equals?

[DarkCrow]

I'm abit like Sarz, i've had 2 bread makers (Ilurrve the smell of fresh bread) but they do end up as large cupboard fillers. i also found that if you use any other recipe than the one supplied in the original instructions, they don't seem to work as well.

[Patchninja]

The thing to do is ignore the cup!
Bread-making is a very precise art. Get one of those electronic scales - not expensive. Then, go to amazon and get a book about machine bread and you'll be off. Wonderful also for preparing pizza dough, fougasse / focaccia etc. I love mine.

[Brengirl]

Great buy Paulw. In the UK I think we all find the cup measure confusing.
You can buy cup measures in kitchen shops. If they are metric cups they hold about 5oz unsifted flour. If they are US cups (not metric) they hold 4oz. A half pint beer mug hold the same so you could use that. Crazy isn't it.

[zazen999]

I gave up the measures as the bread was too dry. So now I put flour in to my own eye; add a few pinches of dried yeast, and a pinch of salt; then a measure of water and start it off. If it looks too dry [which it usually is as I err on the side of caution] I add more water until it looks wet enough.

Then, after it has mixed; I take it out and keep it in the fridge and it rises in it's own time there; tear off pieces and make flatbreads which are rolled and kneaded gently in flour until they get to the right consistency. If I make a loaf, I do the same. I found it easier to add more flour that way than to make it too dry as you can't easily add more water.

It's all trial and error; find a recipe online and try that and see how it goes. I never use the maker to make the actual loaf; I only use it to make the dough.

*I'm gonna change your title to try and attract someone with the same breadmaker to see if they can help....

[swansea girl]

Thanks everybody
I am off to the shops today to buy my ingredients and will try using the conversions (thanks PAULW) and see how that goes...if that doesn't work its scales and online bread recipes if that fails I suppose I could use it just to knead the dough.

I don't understand why they cant put everything in grams and ml's,we would all know where we are then,Oh well...I'll give it a go and let you know how I get on.I don't think you would believe how excited I am

Hopefully someone on here will have one and report back,told my other half and son yesterday that I was asking on here and they said "it's a gardening forum"...and I said "It's not just a gardening forum,it's much more than that! Its a world of knowledge,someone will know!" I felt like I was in a dramatic ending of a film when I said it

[Patchninja]

Have a go at this flat bread.
270ml water
450 g flour
1 sachet yeast
1.5 coffee spoons salt.*Put the ingredients in the machine in the order given.
Put on the dough only programme.
When finished, make in into 2 rectangles about 2 CMS thick. Let it rise again for 30 mins. Bake for 20. when it comes out of the oven, spread with pesto and sprinkle with halved cherry toms and more basil leaves. YUM!
Use the same recipe to make pizza bases. Roll out as thick or as thin as you like. You can freeze the dough.
Like Zazen, I don't bake in it, except brioche which comes out a treat.

10ml cream
350G flour
3 beaten eggs
1 soup spoon orange flower water
1 sachet yeast
1/2 teaspoon salt
50g sugar
120g butter
Zest of an orange.

In the machine, put in the eggs and liquid, then the flour, butter, salt, sugar and yeast. Set to a sweet bread programme.

[Brengirl]

That does sound scrummy apart from the fact that I am printing it and cannot find how to stop the thread from printing.!!! Oh well will have to reverse some of the paper

[Snadger]

Any measuring cup/jug will do surely? Most of them are marked with millilitres/cups/fluid ounces etc,etc........

[Buleste]

Anything that measures in cups will do but you can order replacement cups from MR themselves. Morphy Richards - Accessory Detail

[swansea girl]

Thanks all , the recipes sound fab Patchninja will be trying those
Unfortunately when I was brought the bread maker it wasn't in the best of states...in fact I think it was making Penicillin! so I politely declined and ended up buying one in on sale,but it has this ...

FLOUR TYPES (1)White,plain,softgrain (2) Brown (3) Granary (4) Wholemeal


CUP
1/18 (1) 18g (2) 20g (3) 19g (4) 17g
1/4 (1) 36g (2) 39g (3) 38g (4) 33g
1/2 (1) 72g (2) 78g (3) 75g (4) 66g
3/4 (1) 108g (2) 117g (3) 113g (4) 99g
1 (1) 114g (2) 156g (3) 150g (4) 132g
1 1/8 (1) 162g (2) 176g (3) 169g (4) 149g
1 1/4 (1) 180g (2) 195g (3)188g (4) 165g
1 1/2 (1)216g (2) 234g (3) 225g (4) 198g
2 (1) 288g (2) 312g (3) 300g (4) 264g

OTHERS 1/4 cup 1/2cup 3/4cup 1cup 2cup

Dried fruit 41g 82g 123g 164g 328g
butter 50g 100g 150g 200g 400g
preserving or
caster sugar 55g 110g 165g 220g 440g

granulated
sugar 57g 113g 169g 226g 452g

chopped apple
1/2 cubed 31g 63g 93g 124g 248g

frozen
raspberries
or fresh
plums 25g 50g 75g 100g 200g

and liquid measures are same as PAULW's post.

Hopefully that may help some of you too

right I'm off to do some baking

*Edit - chart didn't come up as I wrote it,was a little confusing so have labeled flours (1) (2) (3) and (4) and labeled weights that correspond...hope it makes sense

[Patchninja]

Good luck. I have to admit that I use it most for pizza dough etc. Its so quick to just throw everything in and go and do something else while it does its thing. Haven't eaten a bought pizza since! YUM. But, perhaps not great for the hips!