Beliefs and stuff

[smallblueplanet]

So who else is a bit 'new age' when it comes to growing things/life in general?

I sometimes wonder about being a bit more 'spiritual', but never could believe in organised religions.

I think gardening and growing things could become a bit 'spiritual'.

How 'bout youse?

[johnty greentoes]

So who else is a bit 'new age' when it comes to growing things/life in general?

I sometimes wonder about being a bit more 'spiritual', but never could believe in organised religions.

I think gardening and growing things could become a bit 'spiritual'.

How 'bout youse?

Manda- agre totally but don't have enough time to elaborate - will return and contribute later.

[serenity]

you can't grow your own without becoming more "in tune" with nature and the cycle of life.

[smallblueplanet]

you can't grow your own without becoming more "in tune" with nature and the cycle of life.

Oh but you can - plenty of folk would/will do things the scientific way. I'm not anti-science (I did a science degree - failed ), but its only one belief system, not the only belief system!

[smallblueplanet]

I guess the frogs and Sarah's death, and Spring and growing things....got me thinking again - or its the red wine!

[serenity]

scientists still have to work with the seasons.

[smallblueplanet]

no they don't they think they can change the seasons!

[serenity]

how? are we talking heated greenhouses?

[smallblueplanet]

well they can seed rain clouds? and put fish genes in plants and grow ears on mice....so why not?

anyway I wanted a bit of a positive message, a way to see things as you say 'in tune', not discordant.

[nick the grief]

As I've lived all of my life within a mile of the countryside I think that I am intune with nature. My wife was brought up in Sutton Coldfield & the first year we lived together she was always noticing things like the 1st bluebells or the leaves turning - I guess it was everyday for me so I never noticed. THere's none so blind etc.

Also being a bit of a bumkin, I appreciate the seasonal quality of food. I love sprouts & Leeks but we rarely eat them when they are out of season as they just don't taste right

[lyndap]

My family think I'm hippyish/new age.My sons don't really like my clothes,cos when I get chance to 'dress up' i wear 'Ethnicy clothes'.Since being 'grown up' I think I've definatley become more new age especially with how I eat and with the gyo and recycling and all the rest of it.Most of my relatives just think I'm exentric(OR LOOPY!)As for spirituality,my gardening and being at one with nature does it for me.

[Alice]

Earthbabe, what brought all that up on a Sunday night. You're certainly right that science doesn't have the answer to everything, and nobody else has a monopoly on the truth either. I subscribe to no religion, but was brought up in the Christian tradition. As I remember things, The first sin commited by Adam and Eve, was eating from the tree of knowledge which they had been forbidden to do. There are things not given to us to know and we just have to accept the mystery.
But there are things which all religions teach. Live in a right and proper manner and treat other people as you wish to be treated. I don't think you can go far wrong with that.
Just be true to yourself and live life in a way that feels right to you. I don't see any other way.

[beefy]

Earthbabe, what brought all that up on a Sunday night. You're certainly right that science doesn't have the answer to everything, and nobody else has a monopoly on the truth either. I subscribe to no religion, but was brought up in the Christian tradition. As I remember things, The first sin commited by Adam and Eve, was eating from the tree of knowledge which they had been forbidden to do. There are things not given to us to know and we just have to accept the mystery.
But there are things which all religions teach. Live in a right and proper manner and treat other people as you wish to be treated. I don't think you can go far wrong with that.
Just be true to yourself and live life in a way that feels right to you. I don't see any other way.

Well said Alice .
At home we were always told that what anyone did for a couple of hours on a Sunday (or any other day of the week )was entirely their own business and if they didn't do the same as you it didn't matter .

[johnty greentoes]

Earthbabe

You have hit on an interesting question and I hope it provokes a great thread.

My own journey has been one from a rather strict "religious" up bringing within the Christian tradition to a place where I can now easily be criticised as being "New Agey" because I find a kind of peace and serenity and connection with the "other" through the natural world.

Of course it is impossible to fully express these sorts of things in words but I think it is worth the trying.

I like the word connection because for me it describes those luminous (numinous) moments when things make complete sense, albeit often very fleetingly. And for me these moments happen when I am outdoors and revelling in nature. I first experienced this feeling/oneness connection thingy when I climbed to the top of of Hellvelyn aged about 12. I got to the top, looked about me and was amazed. I could only respond with silence. I was overawed. I can honestly say that I find my garden and allotment a place of connection - a connection with the real and natural rhythm of things, a connection with the overwhelming harmony of life/death, growth/decay.

No doubt the more dogmatic amongst us will find all this a bit wish washy, I know I have friends that do, as I am basing my understanding on what I am experiencing, rather than in some "revealed truth" (Bible, Qur'an, Torah, Buddah etc), but after much thought and debate in religious circles that is where I have got to - my partnership with nature is far more important to me than my conscious beliefs.

I respect those with a religious outlook as I think we all have it within us, what I struggle to respect is the doctrinal fundamentalism that is currently ruining our world. But I always remind myself that that is a minority of people who hold religious views, although their actions can make them a significant minority.

This is a huge area for discussion, and I hope it takes off.

PS thanks again for the JA tubers.

[smallblueplanet]

Are folk calling me earthbabe or am I hallucinating?

I very much like what you say JT - I'd like to get a bit gnostic myself, I'm just trying to figure out how.

Ah well the 'mundane' calls I must away to bed.