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    I know you’ve probably heard is countless times before, but I’m sick (REALLY sick) of my job. I’m a developer (programmer), did the whole computer science thing at uni, have done freelance work, setup a couple of small businesses but I’ve grown tired of the rat race. I work with some downright geeks and bullies (really, really not nice people)– I think they’ve become the final nail in my coffin. I dread going to work, plus my boss isn’t the “best” [don’t want to say too much for obviously reasons – but I tell ya, I could go on for pages about this place!]. I’ve been working with/on computers for near enough 20 years.. starting to programme from when I was ~8... I think I've grown tired of the whole industry really.

    So here’s the part where I need advice. Recently a member posted about RHS Exams – I’ve had a look at them, and fancy having a crack at them.. In a couple of years, I plan to change my career.. I’m hoping then I’d have made a dent in the mortgage to be able to take a cut in salary (most “outdoor” jobs seem to be paid less than the ones where you’re sat in front of a computer for x hrs per day). When I say plan, I *am* going to be changing my career – I’m almost convinced that the stress here is going to shorten my life. I’ve realised now life isn’t all about money, especially after falling into GYO and gardening – I find it a bit of tranquillity (despite very hard labour! & I’ve always had a “thing” about cooking, and sourcing decent food) at the end of a damn awful week. Having a young family now probably has changed my outlook on life. Anyway, for whatever reason I didn’t go into my chosen career path (Biology), but have a keen interest in it. I’ve just checked out the Level 1, and Level 2 courses than RHS offer – for the most part I can answer the majority of the Level 2 past papers, from what you all have helped me learn here, and my natural interest in Biology and how things “work”. So the query is, do you think these exams are worth while? I’m not sure what “outdoor” job I’d like to do at the end of the day, but definitely something relating to gardening, perhaps even training – who knows. Would it be worth starting off with Level 1, then working my way through them? Are there any other organisations that offer recognised qualifications in the horticultural industry? As mentioned I don’t have any clear path set out – probably need to seek career advice [yes I know it’s not a good time etc!!]. It’d mean a change to our lifestyle (i.e. not just go and buy things without too much thought, but speaking to my wife I think we both agree it’d be for the better!

    Have any of you done similar? Did you have a 5/10 year plan? Realistically, have it worked out worthwhile for you?

    I've thought long and hard about the winter months, being cold and wet - but I honestly really do enjoy being outside. I've enjoyed building a run for my chickens, a lot of work but great fun. Perhaps combing these things into a job may be possible - with a gentle lead into having a useable, but 'growable' area within gardens.

    Thanks for any input/advice offered!

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    Hi Chris.

    4 years ago I worked for the largest training provider in Europe - and then [4 years 3 days ago] the boss died in a helicopter crash. The company was 'Corporate Personified' - huge cars driven by sales guys, fingerprint laptop technology, Board meetings every week into the late evening, buying up companies for their LSC contracts and it was all run SO badly it made me realise I never ever wanted to be a corporate again. I walked into the job and an hour later had 'inherited' £5 million of LSC funding, with NO staff, NO premises allocated to me and NO learners and NO companies on board. So, I get you! Stress doesn't go any way to explaining the weight of issues that had to be coped with on a daily basis with Directors who moved the goalposts on an hourly basis and who wanted to cut corners from the circles that we had after all the corners had already been cut.

    I left to start a company with an old boss and 18 months later the company was absorbed into his wife's company and about 3 months later I was made redundant and yes, money is an issue but you survive! I took the main client that I had with me and work as a consultant for the company still.

    And I took a year's Cert in Hort at Derby College and now I'm working for Garden Organic on a 3 year project working long term with schools with SEN pupils.

    When I went to the Corporate I was only there to learn and was going to give it a year, 2 at most and I lasted 13 months. Couldn't wait to get out.

    We overpay our mortgage by as much as we can, and have turned a 25 yr mortgage into [if we continue to overpay] 8 years. So, by the time we have paid that [in 4 years], we can effectively work for savings and upgrades to the house. So, that is a major part of our plan!

    This is my 3rd career and I suspect it won't be the last; so I say go for it!

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    • #3
      As someone who's spent the last eight or nine years not going for it...for whatever reason at certain times...ie too late to train,low confidence and maybe just the lack of umph needed...I say go for it too.
      One life and all that.
      Good Luck.x
      the fates lead him who will;him who won't they drag.

      Happiness is not having what you want,but wanting what you have.xx

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      • #4
        It sounds like you've made your mind up Chris what you want to do. If it's what you and your good lady want to do...then I say go for it. If you don't give it a go you'll never know what you can achieve. If all else fails you've always got a good base to turn back to. I have to agree there's nothing worse than being stressed/bullied and worn down by people in a job your really ticked off with. It has "the dark cloud" effect on family life and with a small family to enjoy that's not a good place to be. I've been thinking about going in to teacher training, but I'm starting at the bottom with teachers assistant...ya have to start somewhere. There's quite a few peeps on here that can give you advice/experience's of the R.H.S courses and where abouts to start...I'm sure they'll be along to help. If my opinion helps I'd say "Go for it" I think you'd be great at what ever you set your mind to.

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        • #5
          Thanks all - zaz, v.helpful.. I do have a base to fall back on, as I have a source of freelance work (which, in turn I overpay our mortgage by, each year, and have it down to a similar term too.. My plan to be mortgage free by the time I'm 40 now looks like it may be a lot sooner than that). Originally I was "corporate" - had a nice car, enjoyed what I wanted etc but it's more so getting a foot in the door with some qualifications to backup my then, non-related degree.

          Working for a project like GO has appealed to me in the past, so perhaps a viable option for the future..

          What was the certification called, Zaz?

          I'm planning on staying here until my mortgage is gone, or we have enough savings that we're able to pay it off.. but a spanner in the works, as always has set that back slightly - we're set to be back on track shortly mind. Trouble is my wife wants the house sorted now, I want the mortgage gone. I also am trying to build a nest-egg up, so if I did loose my job (more so now, leave) for a year at least I've a cushion to be able to be looking for work but still be able to live! It's hard, but bleh!

          The costs at a centre local to me aren't bad - £10/module for level 1, £12 for level 2, and I'm guessing £14/level3 (not looked that far a head yet). To be honest, I've even thought about going part time, and then part time in a local garden centre.. Just the wage is a bit of a concern at the mo. FWIW it's not me who's bullied (I'd not have it, I'd snap knowing me), but it's the fact I have to stand by and watch someone be bullied, and despite speaking to them and others, they're not doing anything about it. The "whistle blowing" proc here is rubbish too, as said bully is so linked in with HR etc, it's a joke. Bearing in mind this is a massive public organisation I work for too.. Crazy! I don't want to be part of a place like this. iIve turned down a job offer for a lot more money (in terms of mortgage, it'd mean I'd be able to double payments, and double overpayments).. it's for an old boss, but means an hour there, and hour back in commute. I'm a bit of a jekyll and hyde on the road (probably stems from here).

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          • #6
            Yep,go for it bud you don't want to live your life wondering what might have been & with reference to ....
            Originally posted by andi&di View Post
            ie too late to train
            get stuck in bud,I took my 16th edition electrical installation City & Guilds at 56 years of age & got the second highest pass mark in the class of 18 (much younger) students,until you try you will never know what you can achieve
            He who smiles in the face of adversity,has already decided who to blame

            Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity

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            • #7
              They don't do the same qual now Chris - it changed last year.

              Sometimes you have to bite the bullet [I worked in Civil Eng for 14 years and by golly, the whole 14 years I was bullied but there were no laws in place at the time to stop it...so I had to suck it up and learn techniques for dealing with it - so I get a bit het up as well when I see bullies in action at work]. But I needed the income so went to college in my spare time to get a degree and sucked up the bullying... so the first year I did one morning, one afternoon and one evening at college 15 miles away - which reduced my overtime income and built up a 7k debt to pay for it all - but before I even got into the second year I had got a better job and 2 years after that, I got a promotion so it was well worth it for me.

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              • #8
                I'll just add - take the opportunity of courses as soon as you can as alot of colleges seem to be dropping them like flies at the moment!

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                • #9
                  Go for it Chris, it gets harder to change as you get older. I didn't change direction until I was 50, wish I'd done it years ago.
                  Granny on the Game in Sheffield

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                  • #10
                    Go for it. I am at the same scenario right now (stuck at work not enjoying it, and having to sit while people bitch and whine at each other) and considering a change of direction. You are never too old to reconsider your life, one life only so don't hesitate to get yourself out of a crap situation if you can.

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                    • #11
                      Its something I've said often, both here and in the real world, but I will never die wondering!
                      I have, (and will again I'm sure) tried and failed, but have also tried and succeeded. But I have never not tried!!

                      Do it!
                      Bob Leponge
                      Life's disappointments are so much harder to take if you don't know any swear words.

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                      • #12
                        I'm definately going to do it, it's just finding the right approach Thanks for the words of encouragement though!

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                        • #13
                          Go for it! If you have a 'fall back' option, make sure that stays valid (just in case) but definitley go for it!
                          We 'went for it' with the farm, found it wasn't going to work long term, but it was definitely the right thing at the time. OK things will always be tricky (unless we win the lottery I doubt we will be able to retire) but we DID it!
                          Flowers come in too many colours to see the world in black-and-white.

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                          • #14
                            If its what you want then go for it, you will always be saying I wonder what would have happened if I had done this or that, if you dont. I am sure you will be able to get on well, there are always night jobs in the dreaded supermarkets if you get stuck re income.
                            Gardening ..... begins with daybreak
                            and ends with backache

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                            • #15
                              Carpe Diem, mate. If you don't, you could end up playing the 'what if...' game for the rest of your (stressed) life

                              Zebedee
                              "Raised to a state of heavenly lunacy where I just can't be touched!"

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