Same sex marriage........why not?

[taff]

....again, I ask, anyone that has an issue....exactly why? Not to cause grievance on the Vine, not to put you on the spot...just for me and the many more 'mes' out there. What exactly are we doing sao wrong to be judged and condemned?

I truly believe that the strong belief put into my parents head, contributed to me no longer having that love....why?

No-one put the idea in their heads [unless they're jesuits ] they chose to believe what they believe.
And while they are your parents, you don't have to think the same as them or be the same as them or worry about what they believe. They can do their thing, you can do yours.

If it were a friend of yours acting like this, would you put up with it? People do go on about their families as if they have to put up with rubbish 'because they are your family'. So what? If they really want to act like your family, they'll love you anyway. If they can't, then they aren't much of a family are they?

[SarrissUK]

There is no upset in the apple cart Newton. In my opinion it is nice to see that the good fols I have come to know are discussing a sensitive matter with such class, but I will admit it was a surprise to me to see it brought up on a GYO forum.

[SarrissUK]

Gah... I meant "folks" LOL

[di]

Thank you Newton....I'm sure things will all work out.

The huge point to remember is that just because those that love you don't love what you do, Doesn't mean they don't love you.

We are all entitled to love, faith and beliefs. Unless our actions harm anyone, then those three factors should always be considered....whether that be the gay couple that wish to be married in a church or the vicar that feels doing so would go against his beliefs.

I would like for all to be allowed to marry where ever they wish and am sure enough vicars could accomodate this without 'forcing' others to do something they're uncomfortable with.


xxx

[di]

No-one put the idea in their heads [unless they're jesuits ] they chose to believe what they believe.
And while they are your parents, you don't have to think the same as them or be the same as them or worry about what they believe. They can do their thing, you can do yours.

If it were a friend of yours acting like this, would you put up with it? People do go on about their families as if they have to put up with rubbish 'because they are your family'. So what? If they really want to act like your family, they'll love you anyway. If they can't, then they aren't much of a family are they?

We're a really close knit family and I have to say they are normally the most amazing parents. They have helped me out so much. Last night my Dad dropped off plastic to make a poly tunnel, he's been thinking up plans as to how we'll make it all day. We speak every morning...I think only a few hours passed between his emotional phonecall and the 'making up' one. They just can't handle it. Whether religion, age, living out in the sticks or just pure stubborness are to blame, I don't know. I do know though, they love me and I love them

[The Reverend]

Morning Di, i don't know you at all, but what does come through from your posts is, that you are a lovely, lovely person.

[donnakebab]

Morning Di, I don't know you either but I've been reading through the last few pages of this thread and it struck me that maybe your parents are afraid of what will happen to you when the time comes for God to 'judge you'. It is out of their hands and as parents maybe that is what scares and hurts them...not you.

Just a thought. The more love the better...that's what I say. It doesn't matter where it's coming from as long as it's true.

[di]

Morning

Thanks. Other than my parents, it's really not an issue to me. I'm still me, I still do the same things, have the same friends and eat the same breakfast.

It just does confuse me why religion seems to have clung to the idea that a gay relationship is so wrong. x

[OverWyreGrower]

They just can't handle it. Whether religion, age, living out in the sticks or just pure stubborness are to blame, I don't know. I do know though, they love me and I love them

I suspect it might just be an age thing..... the other week, my mum came out with the most horrible, awful racist comment. Both my sister and I were really shocked and said so to her - we both have friends of different races and religions.

It took us a while to get to the crux of the matter.... she spent most of her 'formative' years living with whole black/white divide of the working class UK. She is terribly influenced by a lot of the rubbish in the papers about muslims/polish/whoever being terrorists, stealing 'our' jobs etc - that was how she was brought up. She even said that she wouldn't have wanted me to meet/marry a man who wasn't white - as she would never have been able to trust him... I was absolutely horrified that she thought/thinks that!!!

I can understand where she is coming from, but think she is completely and utterly wrong.

[Aberdeenplotter]

Morning



It just does confuse me why religion seems to have clung to the idea that a gay relationship is so wrong. x

Not much logical about religion and remember that it was religion that used to control society with talk of fire and brimstone and such like. Fornicators would burn in hell etc. Christians even believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross and rose from the dead. That's a head scratcher but millions upon millions of people still believe it and they have a similar belief in other biblical writings.

[Florence Fennel]

Wow this is serious! I'm not here to give an opinion. Love to you Di is all I came in to say

[Aberdeenplotter]

Flo, it's the sort of thread I would never normally contribute to but somehow I've allowed myself to be drawn in on this occasion. I'm still not giving an opinion though, just throwing in my tuppence worth where I think it's appropriate.

[RedThorn]

Easiest way not to be drawn in is to abstain from commenting AP

[Aberdeenplotter]

Easiest way not to be drawn in is to abstain from commenting AP

For once on this type of topic, I have abstained from abstaining. and I have been encouraged by the number of likes my posts have received.

[piskieinboots]

I married Snowdrop in 1993 - it was still illegal to be 'gay' in the Armed Services whilst it was perfectly legal in civvie street...think about that for a moment ...1993...not so very long ago.

Fast forward to 2010 and we had our first gay couple living in married quarters - two lads, one RAF, one Navy (well he would be wouldn't he! JOKE!!)

Where we are now we have a gay girl couple living in the quarter opposite us - they are a squillion, trillion times better neighbours than the young family who partied until 0400hrs often, thankfully now moved on.


Di - who knew! erm, everyone apart from me it would seem (((hugs)))