Sugar is Safe

[veggiechicken]

I am not going to rise to that bait, Mr Potty! I'll leave it to Bins to do the honours.....

[binley100]

......... and if I lay on my back I have the same problem with another part of my anatomy..........



Colin

way too much information there ........

[Potstubsdustbins]

I just got a big 'booty' if you know what I mean.

Colin

[donnakebab]

Sugar is a known-about nasty - we never had it (in this format) when we first started to walk upright, we don't need it, it is not good....I'm not saying it's not nice...I'm saying we don't need it

If we only needed what we had when we started to walk upright we would be in a pretty sorry state!

Well I would be. Wot no tea? I don't take sugar thank you.

[piskieinboots]

Again, I say we do only need what we needed back then - but evolution has given us so much more, some good, some bad.

Black decaff tea no sugar please

[Two_Sheds]

Behavioural problems is down to lack of discipline and low self esteem

That's a sweeping statement!

I work in a class of 12 low achievers, all with varying levels of behavioural problems. It's a complex mix of lack of discipline, emotional neglect, physical neglect, low self esteem, low achievement, hunger (many of them don't eat at all until their school lunch) and poor diet (high energy drinks, crisps, sweets for breakfast).

I can immediately spot who hasn't had breakfast (they can't focus, they're yawning, almost comatose) and those that had too much sugar (usually a can of Red Bull): bouncing off the walls, rude, aggressive, loopy.

Then I have a couple who have good parenting and good diet: their behaviour is down to autism. It's not a bad thing to have, but the behaviour is sometimes disrupting in a class that's trying to learn

[Two_Sheds]

Give her a bar of chocolate, 5 mins later she will be climbing the wall's.

But sweet corn ... she could run on the ceilings after a hit of corn !

That ties in to the high GI diet theories: that high GI foods (like white starches, chocky, sweet foods like sweetcorn, etc) give you an energy rush, lift your insulin, then it all crashes down and you get mood swing type effects

Low GI says you need slow burning energy, from things like wholegrains

[julesapple]

........Except fresh strawberries, oh and fresh double cream, oh and fillet steak with a fine red.

That sounds like the BH's low-carb diet. We're both following it, him for the diabetes and me for hyperthyroidism.

[julesapple]

My lad, bless his little cottons, is never still nor quiet...and other than the odd evening at 6:30, I've convinced them it's 8:30...I'd have it no other way. His huge and utterly big no no is anything orange, even orange juice can send him a little mad...squash,fizzy orange, orange sweets, even the cheap bright yellow(OK not orange) ice cream send him absolutely mad. My parents thought I was just following a trend and making it up...until they got him a fanta on an otherwise perfect weekend. He went from being chatty and lively to leap frogging all the tables in the cafe garden!
BUT, strangely, coke/caffiene have the opposite effect. It's incredibly rare that I let them have fizzy drinks, and the first time he asked for coke I really did panic, ten minutes later, the most chilled I've evr known him.(other than asleep or poorly)

Goes to show, we is all so different.

Di welcome to the world of Tartrazine

We've been there, and as soon as we cut it out #1 Son was a different child. I had never given him squash, fizzy drinks or sweets ever. Then we returned from Germany when he was three and my Mother, grandmother and aunts filled him with the stuff - cheap squash, Smarties, cola.....OMG it was like flicking a switch!!

And I said, right, no more! Not a sweet, not one smartie, not a tiny mouthful of squash or cola. NONE...ok Nana? Mum? Aunties? NONE. You'd have thought I was trying to kill my toddler the way they went on about how cruel I was. But they filled him with the dreaded tartrazine and then handed him back to me to deal with (I was heavily pregnant with high blood pressure etc etc) and I couldn't cope with him and he knew if he ran off I couldn't chase him or catch him.

Anyway, as soon as we cut out the sweets (I had to actually threaten my rellies with If you don't stop the sweets/fizzy/squash etc I will stop visiting you with him. It was incredibly hard trying to get them to understand that even a sniff of tartrazine would push him into pure hell on legs) we were back to normal. He was calm, happy and charming, back to being my little boy.

Now, 23 years (!!!) later, he drinks far too much coke everyday and it doesn't affect him a bit.

[cardiffsteve]

Has anyone seen the news today about coke and pepsi having to change their recipes to avoid cancer warning labels on their products.

Apparently one of the ingredients for caramel colouring is listed in California as a carcinogen

BBC News - Coke and Pepsi alter recipe to avoid cancer warning

[OverWyreGrower]

I find that the caffeine and other nasties in Pepsi Max make me hyperactive, and I'm 32!

No other fizzy drinks (or other foods) make me like that, it's just that one. After a can of it (never mind the litre a day I used to drink) I'm bouncing off the walls, it even gives me OCD-like tendancies. Mind you, it can be useful when I need to stay awake/get something done etc.

Yes, I know I shouldn't drink it, but it is one of my only vices.....

[SarrissUK]

That's a sweeping statement!

Yes, I completely agree, not just with that but your whole statement. It was late at night and I wasn't as thorough as I could've been lol Sometimes I forget that not ALL parents in the world are like me and make sure my kid has what she needs in every way, not just dietary

[Two_Sheds]

^ It might surprise us "middle classers" how neglected some of our children are. No breakfast, no snacks sent for playtime. Hair not combed or washed. Clothes dirty on a Monday (!) ...

[SarrissUK]

I know, I see some of the kids that live nearby and I am appalled... It's tragic for those children - growing up with a totally different moral framework to what I'm used to obviously has its effects. Not that I'm taking a moral high-ground, but it's very rare that I fail on the basics.
I wouldn't be able to do the work you do for that very reason - a part of me thinks that I can save the world, when I really, really can't.

[cardiffsteve]

I'm not a parent but it makes wonder what their home life must be like when Mothers drop their charges to school in their pyjamas and when they pick up the children from school the Mothers are still in their pyjamas. In the morning you could understand it, maybe they got up late but after 3pm.

Maybe I'm being too judgemental