my own Countdown

[veggiechicken]

Sorry to hear that AP but its not over until the fat Sheriff sings. He was testing you, he'll see sense I'm sure

[ladylottie]

Sorry to hear that AP - but as VC says, it's still not over yet! How long will it be before the Sheriff gives the judgement?

I always watch Beechgrove Garden, it's much better than Gardeners World I think - but I have to watch it on Iplayer as I can't get BBC2 Scotland down here in Wales. Nice to put a face to a name though.

Keep positive.

[julesapple]

Maybe the Sheriff didn't get any last night.........cocoa, I mean.

I've re-read the entire thread again and I cannot, I just cannot, see why they should not see reason uphold the law and agree with you. The only reason (and this pushing 'reason' to it's limits) that I can see is that you're fighting the "Council". The Sheriff wouldn't want to upset them - he may not a discount on his Council Tax, or get the streetlights/roads/drains right outside his house repaired as and when, if he upset them. Old Boy network and all that.....

[Bigmallly]

Bummer.........

[Florence Fennel]

Right guys, things went really really badly but still clinging on by the fingernails. As expected, Sheriff has taken papers away to to consider but he was shooting down all my arguments even that based on the Harwood case. Now awaiting the judgement. I am not optomistic.

Shall I shoot him now then AP?

[cardiffsteve]

Keep the faith AP.
I'm sure the sheriff will see that you are right.
Were all behind you 100%

[cardiffsteve]

Shall I shoot him now then AP?

But dont shoot the deputy.

[julesapple]

You ok, AP? Chin up ye feisty wee loon....!

"GIN I was God, sittin' up there abeen,
Weariet nae doot noo a' my darg was deen,
Deaved wi' the harps an' hymns oonendin' ringin',
Tired o' the flockin' angels hairse wi' singin',
To some clood-edge I'd daunder furth an', feth,
Look ower an' watch hoo things were gyaun aneth.
Syne, gin I saw hoo men I'd made mysel'
Had startit in to pooshan, sheet an' fell,
To reive an' rape, an' fairly mak' a hell
O' my braw birlin' Earth,--a hale week's wark--
I'd cast my coat again, rowe up my sark,
An' or they'd time to lench a second ark,
Tak' back my word an' sen' anither spate,
Droon oot the hale hypothec, dicht the sklate,
Own my mistak', an, aince I cleared the brod,
Start a'thing ower again, gin I was God."

[VirginVegGrower]

Sorry to hear today's news AP. There are some lovely "I'm alright Jack" folk out there I'm afraid. Maybe some publicizing of the council's decision could garner support for you and act as leverage. It's a sad day

[Tripmeup]

Ah ,just wondering how u got on...keep the head up...
Might not be as bad as you think..fingers crossed for you..

[Aberdeenplotter]

I don't think it is as bad. the problem was the Sheriff thought that if a local authority had no authority without making regulations, to interpret the Council's regulations as being regulations that needed to be confirmed by the Scottish Ministers to give them illegal effect would lead to an absurd result. That would have meant they didn't have the authority to grant my lease in the first place and my lease would be null and void. After some research, I have now established A local authority has the power to grant leases of land under another act. That helps a lot and will allow me to appeal once the written judgement comes to hand.

[Aberdeenplotter]

You ok, AP? Chin up ye feisty wee loon....!

"GIN I was God, sittin' up there abeen,
Weariet nae doot noo a' my darg was deen,
Deaved wi' the harps an' hymns oonendin' ringin',
Tired o' the flockin' angels hairse wi' singin',
To some clood-edge I'd daunder furth an', feth,
Look ower an' watch hoo things were gyaun aneth.
Syne, gin I saw hoo men I'd made mysel'
Had startit in to pooshan, sheet an' fell,
To reive an' rape, an' fairly mak' a hell
O' my braw birlin' Earth,--a hale week's wark--
I'd cast my coat again, rowe up my sark,
An' or they'd time to lench a second ark,
Tak' back my word an' sen' anither spate,
Droon oot the hale hypothec, dicht the sklate,
Own my mistak', an, aince I cleared the brod,
Start a'thing ower again, gin I was God."

Love it Jules

[julesapple]

It is good, isn't it? I was taught it years ago....in Glasgow, along with some Burns. Although I don't have a Scots accent, I can read both out correctly. Ms Murchie coached us all severely.

[Feral007]

Well that sucks! Although since you're dealing with council probably not surprising. Funny how you can go from one area to another, even one country to another, and yet the council seems the same!

[snohare]

Frank, whether he intended to or not, that Sheriff has practically held your hand and told you what points in law you must address next - forewarned is forearmed, he just prevented you from being ambushed by doing all the research you maybe wouldn't have a clue about. And if his comments are comprehensive enough, your comeback may quash all chances of further (and more costly) appeal by the council.
Given the first finding regarding unfair legislation, the council are now fighting with one arm tied behind their back, while you have taken a knife to the fistfight.
Keep at it. I don't see me applying for a refund even if you win, but the principle is worth fighting for !