Dog owners

[simoncpg]

There are dog wardens, also these are the cpo's, whos only job it seems where Ilive is to harass the youths in the area. Why would you NOT carry a bag for this use?.

[SarzWix]

there was a alley way in the town where we lived in spain we dubbed Dogsh*t Alley. Not a lump of it anywhere else, but down there it was hard to find pavement...

That's maybe because in Spanish towns and cities they have a dude with a little motorised street cleaner, who goes round in the middle of the night/early morning cleaning it all up. Possibly the machine couldn't get down the alley to clean up?

[Two_Sheds]

Why would you NOT carry a bag for this use?.

I agree with you, dogwalkers should carry poop bags. But you proposed that people should be fined for not carrying a bag (not for not picking up). So I say: how would you do that? How could you check or prove that someone wasn't carrying a poop bag? Stop and search?

[Two_Sheds]

There was a 2 page article in the Times this week about the doggy backlash, how dogowners are being pilloried by "everyone else".
The writer had particular venom for cyclists (on cycle lanes) who "terrified" her with their bells (which are actually an early warning system: hazard approaching. Would she prefer a silent approach? We can't win).
Her dog was off lead (so technically out of control) and it knocked a cyclist of their bike. She had no sympathy whatsoever, in fact she blamed the cyclist for ... well, simply being a cyclist. On a cycle lane.
She felt she had an absolute right to exercise her dog off-lead wherever she wanted: yet she wouldn't run it on the road would she? And if a cyclist knocked her DOG over, she'd be up in arms, you bet.

And she absolutely couldn't grasp why "other people" ie. not her or her chums, were so anti-dog.

They're not anti-dog, they're anti irresponsible-owners.

[BarleySugar]

In front of us is a large piece of grassland which wasn't adopted by the school when the houses were built, and consequently still belongs to the builders. Kids play out there, and people walk their dogs. A while back my neighbour was complaining about the amount of dog poo she was cleaning up more from other people's dogs than her own. I complained to the community support officer on her behalf who came and had a look a couple of times and asked us to report any offenders, which was a bit hard, as we don't know them.
I was impressed at how quickly a dog poo bin appeare; a classy looking one in dark green with gold trim; outside my house, although not thrilled with where they put it! There were at least 2 places it could be positioned without anyone along the Walk having to look out on it from their kitchen window and still be convienient for dog owners. After letters from everyone along the walk to the builders asking for it to be repositioned they have finally done it. Our concerns were that we might end up with flies and smells in the kitchen in the summer as it was only about 3m away.
I really like the fairy poster so I've ordered one for my kitchen window

[GardenFaery]

Petal - Good to know - Spent my youth looking after horses at a local stables. We used to stand in the muck heap to keep our boots warm in snow/Winter whilst working outside, used to muck out and then (after washing hands under tap though) eat chips and pies for lunch sitting on boxes in the tack room,rode horses back to their fields without tack at the end of the day (would 'health and safety' even 'allow' you to do that these days?). My immune system now at 43 is solid as a rock and I put it mainly down to exposing myself to all sorts of germs and working outside as a kid?

[simoncpg]

Yes they do it to thousands of innocent youths every day for no other reason than the colour of there skin, the way they are talking, etc.

[simoncpg]

I think SOME dog owners become like smokers, they do not realise that their passion has an antisocial element.

[simoncpg]

Bang on. I totally agree.

[Two_Sheds]

At least you agree with yourself ~ sometimes I don't find myself in agreement with myself

[Two_Sheds]

The writer had particular venom for cyclists (on cycle lanes) who "terrified" her with their bells ...
Her dog was off lead (so technically out of control) and it knocked a cyclist off their bike.

This is what I face most days: dogs on bike lanes - it drives me mad ! - YouTube

They never think they're in the wrong. They don't apologise, and they don't think to clip their animal on its lead

Does my head in it does

[SarzWix]

In the last week, I've had a row with 2 people about their out-of-control dogs.

One walking through a field full of sheep, with a dippy spaniel being allowed to run about among them The owner, when I pointed out that this particular farmer is known for shooting dogs found among his sheep, said 'Oh, but she's fine, she's never hurt a sheep'. Errrr. That's not the point!!! Legally, it isn't under control, and in fact just causing a pregnant sheep to run can cause a miscarriage which costs the farmer a whole year's work/profit from that animal, and they don't make much profit per lamb anyway! How can you live in such a rural area as we are, without knowing this stuff

Second was a couple of horrid yappers, pestering Pads to distraction, noses stuck up her back end, jumping up, barking at her, all the while I have her head clamped to my side because she's dying to chomp them. So I say to the owner, will you please get your dogs away from mine, right now! And again, I get the inane 'Oh, they're fine, they don't mean any harm'. NO! they're not fine! Isn't it obvious by the way I have hold of my dog??! So when I point out that she's about to eat them for breakfast, I get the whole 'Well, it should be muzzled then' No, she shouldn't! She doesn't go for dogs that leave her the f*** alone, and, legally, it's the dogs who aren't under control that are blamed! So if your dog doesn't come immediately you call it, and walk to heel when you tell it to, then it's you and your dogs that have the problem, not mine who does all that!

And as far as cyclists, runners, kids on scooters and skateboards, prams and small children are concerned, I and the dog give way to all of them (even when they're on the pavement and shouldn't be) - she's a big beastie and if she decided to get in the way, it would get messy. Plus parents worry about big dogs near their kids, so we show off a bit about how well trained we are, and everyone's happy

[Hilary B]

We don't get much interaction with cyclists etc, but in a collision between a dog and a cyclist, both are going to get hurt!
There used to be one bloke who took his 2 labradors out in the woods, and he was cycling, which was all well and good except when he came down the side-path at speed just as we were coming with our 2 dogs along the other way, visibility being somewhere between poor and non-existent!
In all the other situations where we have met cyclists, we keep the dogs close until the bikes have gone by (it was slightly trying the day they were lounging around near where we parked the car, and 2 mins later came along behind us, taking ages to get past, but life is full of minor irritations, and it wasn't a real problem).
I can understand people wanting to let their dogs loose when away from traffic, especially if there isn't any feasible alternative 'free' location (that alley/path), BUT they should be prepared to get them under control quickly if someone else comes along!

[BarleySugar]

In our village there is a couple who keep huskies. They harness them up to pull their bikes. As we have a long straight path going along the front of our houses they pick up a lot of speed. There is no way they have those dogs 'under control'. If a child ran across from the field to it's front door they would not be able to stop. If they need to brake they shout at the dogs, who don't always respond quickly. One time the chap came off, but the dogs did stop before he was pulled very far. I know huskies are used to pull sleds, but the driver has control through reins as well as voice, and probably not so many pedestrians either.

[lottie dolly]

This is what I face most days: dogs on bike lanes - it drives me mad ! - YouTube

They never think they're in the wrong. They don't apologise, and they don't think to clip their animal on its lead

Does my head in it does

it is unbelievable how ingnorant some peeps are,we used to cycle around a country park near to us,the paths are shared but the cycle must give wat to pedestrians,do they heck as like,iv'e tolled peeps,at least get a bell,and not all peeps will be aware of a bike comming up,the selfish ones are the first to complain and blastfeam if they get put out,BTW good video TS