puppy housetraining stress !

[Two_Sheds]

I thought you already had a dog TS, will she not learn from that one?

Apparently not




I hope it will get easier next week when she can go for walkies: she's only just had her vaccs so hasn't been beyond the garden yet

[Hans Mum]

[/QUOTE] Can't have that, the doors are glass (plus all the neighbourhood cat would be in wouldn't they? They already come in the garden to do their business)[/QUOTE]

you can get flaps which read the microchip so only youre animals can get in, theyre really good

[mothhawk]

I shouted, and she stopped, then I took her outside: nothing.

It's been raining, cold and windy non-stop since I got her nearly 3 weeks ago. She's a baby with a thin coat: I can't leave her in the garden

French Bulldog

Oh, thin coat thin skin...maybe that's the problem - she's too cold to perform outside. Get her a nice weatherproof coat or thick woolly pully and see if that makes her more inclined to be comfortable enough to perform outside. She may be doing just enough to relieve her discomfort when she's out in the cold, then holding on till she's back in the warm.

[Jeanied]

You can also get pet doors to fit in glass.

I am reminded of Barbara Woodhouse in the old days having special words for pooing and peeing - one of them was 'hurry up' and I think the other one was 'quickly'.
You may need to put a tarpaulin (diy shop one) down for a while and then the newspaper on top - that may help. I would try different treats for this particular function!

[Two_Sheds]

How about a rolled up newspaper and tap the floor in front of her when she does it

Shouting NO! stops her in the act, but it hasn't made her realise that going in the house results in a loud NO!

lol

She was howling & crying when I put her in the crate (understandable) and it's taken 2 weeks to stop that. The books recommended praising her & putting favourite food & toys in there, but no way Jose: she won't eat, she just howls.
I tried putting her in for short periods, waiting for her to be quiet then letting her out, so she would associate being quiet with being released. When she got that, I progressed to praising her instead of letting her out. It was taking ages, she'd howl for an hour.

Then I lost it, and banged on the glass door - she jumped out of her skin, but stopped howling. I've only had to bang on the glass two more times since. She now goes in there no problem, no howling.

It's a shame, but negative reinforcement does have a place where positive reinforcement doesn't work.



Thanks again everyone, the advice & support means a lot to me.

[Two_Sheds]

she's too cold to perform outside. Get her a nice weatherproof coat

Thought of that, tried that


and don't say "cute", she's not cute she's evil

[veggiechicken]

Its tempting to use No for so many things - and may be confusing. I find it better to use different words. So you might say "out" when she's peeing inside, open the door and shoo her out. and Good girl when she does it in the right place and, obviously In when she's welcome back into the house.
I've never tied a dog to me either - like an umbilical cord. Watched them like a hawk, yes, but left them free to explore their own little territory. Can't imagine doing everything with a dog attached!

[rustylady]

She's not evil, just not sure how to behave yet. She's had seven months of doing her business wherever and only 3 weeks with you. If you need a break bring her to Mummy. Mind you, even Star had to be pushed out the back door today for toileting. I blame the weather.

[mothhawk]

Thought of that, tried that



and don't say "cute", she's not cute she's evil

Wouldn't dream of it! Small/toy dogs often get away with terrible behaviour 'cos everyone says "OH, how cute" when if it was a big dog they'd not stand for it. (Not saying that's you TS).

Who's the alpha of the pack?

Have you tried witholding attention? Can you ignore her - not touching, speaking to, petting, picking up, looking at her for a whole day, or week (except for essentials) - confine her to one room maybe as well. And keep her on the floor - I know well the temptation with little ones is to let them on the furniture.

[Creemteez]

Don't despair, TS. I'm pretty sure that when you start taking her out (out of the garden) and that little snuffler starts picking up all the Pee-mails left by other dog, she'll get the idea.
Think yourself lucky you're not like my best friend who owns a gorgeous Alaskan Malamute who was over A YEAR old before she stopped weeing with delight when her favourite Auntie turned up. - And I don't mean a little dribble - it was man the life-boats time! Mind you, she did have moppable floors.....

[Hazel at the Hill]

Can't have that, the doors are glass (plus all the neighbourhood cats would be in wouldn't they? They already come in the garden to do their business)

You could have a cat/dog flap that works on the dog's chip so no-one else can come in and out - it's like them having their own key. And mine is fitted in the glass door too. If I think for long enough I'll remember the brand name.

[Hazel at the Hill]

Can't have that, the doors are glass (plus all the neighbourhood cat would be in wouldn't they? They already come in the garden to do their business)

you can get flaps which read the microchip so only youre animals can get in, theyre really good

You could have a cat/dog flap that works on the dog's chip so no-one else can come in and out - it's like them having their own key. And mine is fitted in the glass door too. If I think for long enough I'll remember the brand name.

Sorry, HM, you beat me to it - you'd think I'd know by now to read a thread through before replying!

Oops, and Jeanie!

[Hazel at the Hill]

I think she's just being a cow: it's cold & rainy out there.

One of my cats is like that - if the weather is lousy when booted out first thing he takes a lightening turn round the garden, dives back in through the cat flap & wees on the front door mat.

I do have a certain amount of understanding, but would prefer it if he used the litter tray, nonetheless...

[Potstubsdustbins]

I had a similar thing with my Akita 10 months old when I got her lived in kennels all her life. Having trained gun dogs I thought I was fairly well up on the subject. The bad news is it took me 18 weeks before I could trust her to let me know when she wanted to go. I spent hours in the garden with her letting her roam and all the time telling her to poop, hurry up etc, the neighbours must have thought I was barmy. She got it in the end but it was hard work.

One thing if I may 'a sausage as a treat'? Sounds to me like she is being fed better than me. Do you know what they fed her on in the kennels maybe just maybe she is not used to rich food. I had to change Kiki's diet back to a biscuit diet as that is what her digestive tract had become used to in the kennels. That at least made her more regular in her motions and I found I could start to second guess her.

Good luck Colin.

[taff]

I'm not going to use the newspaper method: I don't want her thinking it's OK to do it in the house at all. She's spent 7 months doing it inside, on newspaper, so I know it's going to take time, I just hoped it would be a matter of weeks not months.

If she does it on newspaper, give her newspaper, and do as suggested, move it closer and closer to the back door.
If she's already used to a way of 'doing things' [arf arf] then you might just be confusing her. If she already is doing it in the house, and there's no negative reinforcement, perhaps she just doesn't understand why it's bad in the house and good outside.