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  • #46
    Having just read about TS's shocking experience with her dog, isn't it about time some kind of licensing was brought back for dog owners? It might help to prevent irresponsible people from keeping dogs.
    Granny on the Game in Sheffield

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    • #47
      But those irresponsible people wouldn't bother Flo , like they probably don't bother with vaccinations, and tbh with this govt hell bent on reducing the numbers of our girls and boys in blue , who would check up on them ?
      S*d the housework I have a lottie to dig
      a batch of jam is always an act of creation ..Christine Ferber

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      • #48
        If dog licenses were a realistic price, with discounts for the elderly (and perhaps low income generally), and extra charge (not subject to discount) for entire bitches, it could be made self-financing, and might drastically reduce the number of unwanted puppies born. Since they are talking about compulsory microchipping, it is doable, but somehow I don't see it happening!
        Flowers come in too many colours to see the world in black-and-white.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by binley100 View Post
          But those irresponsible people wouldn't bother Flo , like they probably don't bother with vaccinations, and tbh with this govt hell bent on reducing the numbers of our girls and boys in blue , who would check up on them ?
          The TV Licence system seems to work most of the time, couldn't it be run along those lines?

          Originally posted by Hilary B View Post
          If dog licenses were a realistic price, with discounts for the elderly (and perhaps low income generally), and extra charge (not subject to discount) for entire bitches, it could be made self-financing, and might drastically reduce the number of unwanted puppies born. Since they are talking about compulsory microchipping, it is doable, but somehow I don't see it happening!
          I agree Hilary. Someone, somewhere should give it a thought. I might write to my MP
          Granny on the Game in Sheffield

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Florence Fennel View Post
            The TV Licence system seems to work most of the time, couldn't it be run along those lines?
            The TV Licence system operates by assuming that everyone watches TV and that every home should be licensed.
            I have one house with a TV and a licence, the other house no TV, no licence. Every couple of weeks another letter arrives threatening me with court action because I do not have a Licence.
            I told them 5 years ago there was no TV here and I see no need to keep protesting my innocence.
            I wish they would send one of their "Enforcement" officers around to inspect the house - just so that I could tell them where to go!
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Florence Fennel View Post
              The TV Licence system seems to work most of the time, couldn't it be run along those lines?

              No not really Flo,the TV licence system is actually comparatively simple to operate,these days there is a record of every property in the country to have held a licence & its current state of elapse.
              So consequently TV detector vans only need watch a very minimal number to catch wrong doers.
              He who smiles in the face of adversity,has already decided who to blame

              Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity

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              • #52
                So microchip every dog, bitch and puppy and record a licence to the chip and then detect chips without a licence. Simples. I know, I've got my coat on already. I think I'm missing something today, or I've got a bit extra. Whatever it is, it's mad.
                Granny on the Game in Sheffield

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                • #53
                  Thing is, with compulsory microchipping and registration, any dog found without a chip (or with a chip but not registered properly) gets confiscated and put up for rescue. Registration to include a licence fee (to pay for managing the whole thing) with the option of applying for assitance in paying.
                  Nothing is foolproof (fools are too ingenious) but it would probably solve 99% of the problems with dogs, AND make it possible to enforce the bans on keeping dogs which courts can impose, but at present they are meaningless.
                  Meanwhile repeal the BSL part of DDA and use the enforceable ban on dog owning to punish people who turmn their dogs into weapons (there is no such thing as a universally dangerous breed, just breeds commonly kept by dangerous morons!)
                  Flowers come in too many colours to see the world in black-and-white.

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                  • #54
                    We would need dog detector vans ..........dogs are clever so we would need to disguse them into something to lure the dogs out
                    S*d the housework I have a lottie to dig
                    a batch of jam is always an act of creation ..Christine Ferber

                    You can't beat a bit of garden porn

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Hilary B View Post
                      (there is no such thing as a universally dangerous breed, just breeds commonly kept by dangerous morons!)
                      And unfortunately "dangerous moron" is universally available breed of human.
                      If the river hasn't reached the top of your step, DON'T PANIC!

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by bearded bloke View Post
                        No not really Flo,the TV licence system is actually comparatively simple to operate,these days there is a record of every property in the country to have held a licence & its current state of elapse.
                        yes, and they never ever believe that you don't actually have a television, and tell you they will come round and check anyway, just in case you're not telling the truth. They also have a deal with the electrical shops and supermarkets to check anyone who has bought a tv in case they avent got a licence too. They wil also try and scare the cr@p out of you by pretending they are sending letters from a court. They will also threaten you with search warrants even though they aren't supposed, lie and tell you they are someone else, and do everything possible to scare/threaten you into buying a licence you don't need.


                        Originally posted by bearded bloke View Post
                        So consequently TV detector vans only need watch a very minimal number to catch wrong doers.
                        No such thing as detector vans.

                        And breathe......
                        Last edited by taff; 05-05-2012, 08:35 PM.

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                        • #57
                          I have a sheaf of those letters - about 5 years worth! Each month another letter and there are 4 types.
                          1. Opened an investigation - Enforcement Officers will visit you
                          2. Official warning - Enf Officer visit is scheduled
                          3.Letter about Enforcement Procedure - can apply for a search warrant
                          4. The information you need before a hearing is set at your local court, You can appoint a lawyer.

                          Then they start the letter cycle all over again. How dare they assume I cannot live without TV and therefore accuse me of theft. Whatever happened to being innocent until proven guilty.
                          Bring on the Enforcement Officer, if you dare, you stupid idiots.

                          I'm going to throw these letters on the fire now and I don't care!!

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                          • #58
                            Letters from BBC Television Licensing/intro

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                            • #59
                              And that's not me!! I have seen that site before and it was very reassuring!

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                              • #60
                                invite them round for drinks and a telly night,that'll confuse them
                                or to take you to court,done't burn you evidence of harrassement,
                                Last edited by lottie dolly; 06-05-2012, 04:43 PM.
                                sigpicAnother nutter ,wife,mother, nan and nanan,love my growing places,seed collection and sharing,also one of these

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