Builders - don't you just love them!

[snohare]

Aaah, the shed envy ! I was rather just thinking of somewhere you could keep root crops frost free but handy to access even in bad weather, and with the right amount of damp...of course you could use it for wine instead.

[veggiechicken]

Aaah, the shed envy ! I was rather just thinking of somewhere you could keep root crops frost free but handy to access even in bad weather, and with the right amount of damp...of course you could use it for wine instead.

I remember now!! You keep your parsnips in your drawers I'll say no more on the subject

[Feral007]

Keep your mind on the job VC! Don't be getting side tracked with parsnips n' all.
On the subject of the sink and the dishwasher, unless the plumbing under the sink is different in Wales then there wouldn't be room for anything except a cupboard with pipes runniing thru it.

I know a couple of people who have their sink and cupboard in the middle of the room. Leaves a lot of space on the walls for other things. Of course, then you've got to get the plumber to sort the in taps and the out drains.

[veggiechicken]

But these aren't any old parsnips, these are Snohare's parsnips. Once read about, never forgotten http://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gra...-ps_62173.html

[snohare]

I had forgotten all about that !
As it turned out, both carrots and parsnips did quite well under my sideboard, although some of both went mouldy if left there too long. (Weeks.)
I must buy fresh sand for this winter, but I must say I am shocked that I was heating for a profligate three hours a day. Except on windy days, I can't keep the heating on for two nowadays - I get too warm, even fleeceless. This is probably why I am so slender...I have learned to burn calories instead of carbon.
And getting back to the original topic, a small hatch and a hole two feet square, would do you nicely I reckon. Yes, we all have fridges, freezers, cars etc - but times are changing; storms, floods, the economy etc - best to keep other, more low-tech options open.

[veggiechicken]

But, but, but, I don't have any roots to keep fresh, nor a freezer at the mo here. The outside loo is surrounded by soil on three sides, a bit like the old ice houses. I have a spare unused fridge that I'm thinking of putting in there, to use as a store cupboard - will that satisfy you

[snohare]

I don't think a fridge will do well enough at keeping the moisture level correct - it will be hermetically sealed - but full marks for having a Plan B, I'll let you off...

[veggiechicken]

But I don't have to close the fridge door......I could even fill the drawers with sand (sound familiar?)

[Potstubsdustbins]

Thanks Potty. The front door will be concealed under an open fronted porch and won't be seen front on. I'll think about that one!
An itsy bitsy plumbing question please Is there any problem with having a draining board set in a work surface with a washing machine underneath? I'm struggling trying to squash everything in to a 2.6m run. Need to fit in the boiler 55cms, washing machine, 60 cms and freezer 60cms leaving 85cms for a sink. I have a double bowl ceramic sink that came out of the old utility and fits into an 80cm cabinet, so thats an option but its a bit battered and needs a new cabinet. Any other options?

Short answer no, if it is under the draining board part of the sink. It would not fit under the sink its self.

Don't forget you may need to have 'air gaps' between the boiler and your other units. The size of them will be in the manufacturer's instructions.

Colin

[veggiechicken]

Thanks Potty - I'm confused though I know you can't put anything under a sink, but why not under a draining board (simple sit on type)? If its a height issue could I solve it by having the cupboard made higher? or am I being totally daft

[snohare]

But I don't have to close the fridge door......I could even fill the drawers with sand (sound familiar?)

Well, you have grit, I'll give you that. But it's not that open and shut a case. Fridge drawers will not slide properly when full of sand...trust me on this.

[veggiechicken]

Well, you have grit, I'll give you that. But it's not that open and shut a case. Fridge drawers will not slide properly when full of sand...trust me on this.

Oh, I trust you implicitly Sno . I'd already worked out that the sand would fall through the drawer mesh...........

[snohare]

Is there any problem with having a draining board set in a work surface with a washing machine underneath?

Short answer no

I'm confused

Yes, you are !

[snohare]

I'd already worked out that the sand would fall through the drawer mesh...........

Don't be silly Veggie, you can get sandproof plastic drawers...military issue, "desert-proofed"...made by BAe, supplied by Capita, £128.72 each.

[veggiechicken]

I get it now .....it was a punctuation problem. I saw commas before my eyes when I should have seen a full stop Better not finish this glass of red
Thank you gentlemen