Should I stay or should I go?

[Tripmeup]

As everyone says, don't quit now, even if that is what you want to do long-term.. As Hazel says, easier to get a job when you have one...
You need to clearly think out and write down your points and issues with the events that caused the current loss, and the overall situation.. Do this tonight

When discussing it with your boss tomorrow, tell him you have written it all down because you were so annoyed tonight, and that you want to clearly communicate your points of view without getting too worked up. Remain calm, but confident when doing this...

Obviously you will get a feel for which way it is going pretty soon, so don't be afraid to stand your ground... If you are not happy with how it goes, then further advice may be needed

[Florence Fennel]

You should stay, of that there is no doubt. This is not your fault and as has already been said, it may well have sorted itself out before you go in tomorrow. Be brave chuck, just tell the truth and shame the devil

[vegboi]

I'm waiting for him to call me (he's at the gym) problem is, he sides with her as she is his wife's best mate! I've had this before, Before Christmas it was intolerable. She's been given a job she quite clearly can't do - they see this, but keep giving in to her, letting her off, making allowances. It has to be seen to be believed. My job is entangled with hers which is why she's trying to shift the blame. But this time it's all on her, which is why she's sneaked off trying to shove it on me (again).
I am really good at my job (I'm not being big headed) there is a lot that goes into it and I have to keep a lot of balls in the air. Since I've been doing it, production has improved and customers are grinning - we've had a terrible customer relations before (bosses not bothered "It's all about the money, if we lose a couple of customers it's ok, there's plenty more out there").
I don't know what else I can do to prove myself. I'm never ill, always on time, don't take time off, work overtime at the drop of a hat, and work my a*** off until it's time to go home, I have been in when I've been so ill, I didn't even have a voice at one stage!
The other two Bren, - have covered up her mistakes too!

Aneece follow the grievance policy and make a complaint about her if not directly to your boss then to theirs or HR. Put it in writing and keep a dairy of things, conversations dates etc as if you take to a tribunal you will need to demonstrate you have followed process. Hope you get it sorted but don't quit as you wouldn't be entitled to any financial help either.


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[bearded bloke]

Ancee think on,if you leave voluntarily over this it is tantamount to admitting guilt,stand your corner girl as they say ... The truth will out

[binley100]

What the others have said is pretty much my view as well.....stand up for yourself , we'll all be standing behind you (in spirit if not body) .

[rary]

you want to clearly communicate your points of view without getting too worked up. Remain calm, but confident when doing this.

Trip. is giving good advice, and remember if it was so serious your boss would have spoken to you today.
My advice, leave your work at your work, ie. don,t take it home with you and make yourself ill with worry, some problems are made worse with imagination, worry about it when you are faced with it,

[ancee]

Well, I spoke to my boss on the phone at length, I said, I didn't have anything to do with this mistake, and he was fine about it. He asked me what happened and I told him about her ranting and swearing. He said, he knows how I feel as he's been on the receiving end of her rants. But said, we all had to get on. I said, I thought she was under too much pressure and wasn't up to doing the job. He agreed and said she wasn't exactly the brightest biscuit in the tin.
Today, she's completely ignored me.
Last time she went off at me, she got as good back, I very nearly threw her through a window (in my head anyway!) But, five minutes later came and apologised.
No sign of an apology this time. She clearly doesn't think she's in the wrong.
We have to sit near each other, our chairs sometimes touch.
There is a very bad feeling in the office. But I don't know what to do.
I, won't back down and apologise. I am civil, I have to talk to her about work from time to time, but that is all.
Fells like I'm at school, when I'm not talking to one of my classmates!
We are only a small company, my boss, his wife and 4 of us minions. No such thing as HR or even a bloody contract! We don't have grievance policies or any procedures to follow.

[Dorothy rouse]

Somehow, you need to have a meeting,and be able to discuss the atmosphere and come up with a way to move forward, ideally the boss should organise this. It's horrible working with a bad atmosphere.

[ancee]

By the way, thanks for all the support everyone
Not feeling like I want to be there any more now, this has been going on for a while. She has a sneaky way of looking busy and working hard when, anybody would do the job in half the time, better and with less mistakes. They seem blinded by it. Friendship stretches a long way.
She's been schemingley undermining me to them for a while, mistakes made by her are suddenly `our' mistakes, or mistakes made by the computer system we use. Then we have a talk in the office as a whole so it's not directed at her.
I wish I could quit - and punch her in the face before I go!

[Florence Fennel]

Good to hear that you're ok ancee, even if she's not talking to you! Carry on being civil, it's up to the boss to sort this out, not you.

[Bren In Pots]

He said, he knows how I feel as he's been on the receiving end of her rants. But said, we all had to get on. I said, I thought she was under too much pressure and wasn't up to doing the job. He agreed and said she wasn't exactly the brightest biscuit in the tin.
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Ancee it sounds like the boss is intimidated by her so I don't think he's going to be much help.

[noviceveggrower]

Hi there,
Sorry to hear it is so crappy for you at work. I use to work for a supermarket in their cash office to cooped up in a very small space with no windows or breathing space.
We had a new member of staff come in and she took great exception that my wedding in about 6 months then was on the same date that her brother died.
She didn't speak to me unless she had to and if she made a mistake, which she did often then the whole process of cashing till up and balancing the system was totally arsed up. Not good when you have security in wanting a load of figures.
My manager at the time was very non confrontational even when she cheated on her husband and 3 kids and expected us to alter our shifts so she could see him. I said sod off.
In the end another member of staff got her told.
I felt like jacking it in but at the end of the day why should she win which in a way she will of done.
Just hold in there and like rary says try and leave it all at work or it will consume you and your home life and that's not good for you or your family.

[rary]

Ancee, the most aggregating thing, I find, is to carry on your job as if nothing has happened, that way you show that nothing has upset you and any action from someone else is of no importance to you. You may well be seething inside but why give the other person the satisfaction of knowing they have upset you.
all the best

[binley100]

Thats easier said than done ....I know from my last job . But don't just walk out with nothing to go to ...its easier to get another job while you're still in one .

[out in the cold]

Ask your boss for a copy of the company grievance procedures.

Request a meeting with the boss to clear the air, as you want them to clarify why you are being included in "team talks" which are being given as a result of another individual's errors. During the meeting (which you should minute...) make sure that you calmly ask for clarification of whether the boss feels that you are somehow to blame for someone else's training needs. If they get evasive on this,state quite clearly that you need to understand your position, and would view any failure to clarify it as causing undue pressure and tantamount to corporate bullying.