Inset multifuel stove

[bearded bloke]

I think the need for a grate is at least in part due to ash density & the reduction in the formation of clinker,coal burns at it's hottest when air can be freely drawn or blown through it.

[Kirk]

Is 16" the maximum or is there any extra?
Most seem to be around the 19" area, found 1 at 17.5"
Inset Wood Burning Stoves | Range Cookers | Multi-Fuel Stoves | Woodburning Stoves | Verona

Found this: Small Wood Burning Stoves For Sale - Amesti Nordic 350 Wood Burning Stove

Looks compact but cannot see any dimensions. It is also not a dedicated inset item.

The 350 above is 15" width so would fit in but as said not a dedicated inset item, they do a bigger 360 that is 16.1"

P.S. Search for Amesti Nordic 350 Wood Burning Stove as there are several places with better prices. If you think it is any good for your purpose.

[Mikey]

Thats the problem Nicos, OH picked it and likes it. I really can't butcher it. If nothing will fit I'll just have to stick with gas.
I think there is a local chimney sweep who fits stoves and is affiliated to half a dozen manufactureres.
£40 for a visit but if he gets the job he'll take it off the price! Can't be fairer than that methinks!

Could you arrange for him to look at the fireplace at the same time as getting the chimney swept, one cost saved perhaps?

I think the need for a grate is at least in part due to ash density & the reduction in the formation of clinker,coal burns at it's hottest when air can be freely drawn or blown through it.

I like the word clinker, FIL uses them to keep the fire in overnight as they reduce air and burn slowly.

I would suggest that you'll probably have to do away with the surround and backing and will need to open it all up. If you choose to plaster the interior and keep in very minimalist be aware that you cannot use normal plaster as this cracks under the heat, Vitcas is a company I have used in the past for appropriate render and plaster and its very good stuff, though not cheap, and your plasterer will hate you, as its like spreading setting toffee.
Most wood burners will require a flue lining to the chimney which you don't find in open fireplaces, and a minimum clearance of between 100 and 150mm to any flammable surface. You'll probably also have to extend or remove the hearth in front as these generally need to be made in more than 1 piece to stop heat fracture.

Sounding expensive yet Snadge?

[Potstubsdustbins]

As to the flue, if as it looks the ILF is fitted to an original brick chimney it will not require lining unless the flue way is cracked. If it is cracked and only smoke tests will prove/disprove this then hold on to your wallet.

All original brick flues are Class One and suitable for any fuel providing they are in good condition.

Potty

[Snadger]

Time to come clean! The picture I originally posted is not my fireplace it is just the same as my fireplace.
Here are a few piccies of my fireplace.

[Snadger]

........one last one.
The fireplace was bigger than the chimney breast so I widened the breast allowing me to run pipes up space at ends.

It had a baxi bermuda back boiler in and still has the gas flue liner in it which would become redundant if I was to make the switch to multi fuel. Even if A multi fuel liner wasn't required I would fit one for peace of mind. The opening originally had no lintel but I built a reinforced concrete lintel into it.

[Snadger]

Could you arrange for him to look at the fireplace at the same time as getting the chimney swept, one cost saved perhaps?



I like the word clinker, FIL uses them to keep the fire in overnight as they reduce air and burn slowly.

I would suggest that you'll probably have to do away with the surround and backing and will need to open it all up. If you choose to plaster the interior and keep in very minimalist be aware that you cannot use normal plaster as this cracks under the heat, Vitcas is a company I have used in the past for appropriate render and plaster and its very good stuff, though not cheap, and your plasterer will hate you, as its like spreading setting toffee.
Most wood burners will require a flue lining to the chimney which you don't find in open fireplaces, and a minimum clearance of between 100 and 150mm to any flammable surface. You'll probably also have to extend or remove the hearth in front as these generally need to be made in more than 1 piece to stop heat fracture.

Sounding expensive yet Snadge?

You see, 4" to 6" in old money is easily achievable but I will still take professional advice on this one. Thanks for the info!

[Snadger]

Is 16" the maximum or is there any extra?
Most seem to be around the 19" area, found 1 at 17.5"
Inset Wood Burning Stoves | Range Cookers | Multi-Fuel Stoves | Woodburning Stoves | Verona

Found this: Small Wood Burning Stoves For Sale - Amesti Nordic 350 Wood Burning Stove

Looks compact but cannot see any dimensions. It is also not a dedicated inset item.

The 350 above is 15" width so would fit in but as said not a dedicated inset item, they do a bigger 360 that is 16.1"

P.S. Search for Amesti Nordic 350 Wood Burning Stove as there are several places with better prices. If you think it is any good for your purpose.

Thanks for the info Kirk! The opening is a very tight 16".

[bearded bloke]

If the wood burner has an output over 5Kw it will need air supply from outside wall/underfloor space

[veggiechicken]

Here's my woodburner, Snadger! We had to remove all the filling inside the opening to make room for it, line the opening with quarry tiles (I think), extend the hearth, and put a metal baffle above the fire but below the wooden mantelpiece to stop the wood scorching and deflect the heat! Just to give you an idea. Shame to lose your lovely tiles though.

[Snadger]

If the wood burner has an output over 5Kw it will need air supply from outside wall/underfloor space

I intended keeping it under 5Kw if I could. I haven't done the calcs for this room but the other area I was originally going to fit a stand alone woodburner only came out at 3.7Kw required and this room I feel has less cubic metrerage.
It would be nice if it could spread a little heat throughout the house though.

[Snadger]

Here's my woodburner, Snadger! We had to remove all the filling inside the opening to make room for it, line the opening with quarry tiles (I think), extend the hearth, and put a metal baffle above the fire but below the wooden mantelpiece to stop the wood scorching and deflect the heat! Just to give you an idea. Shame to lose your lovely tiles though.

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Thanks veggie! I like the idea of a metal baffle and I hope I could do something similar to deflect heat from my woodwork?
Hopefully my chimney sweep friend will have a solution when I get him to have a look.

[bearded bloke]

Hey Snadge,saw one of these yesterday & thought of this thread .. Hothouse Products - 4kW Inset Stove .. looked a nice burner & not badly priced at £366.91

[green thing]

I've been thinking about doing the samething.
I have an original fireplace in the bedroom but its not
Being used at the moment as an open fire. Been unable to find wood stove to fit
So now looking at building my own from 6mm
Steel plate. Local engineering firm dose laser cutting.
bought a wood burner for down stairs it came in flat pack
Form and was bolted together. Looking to do something on
a smaller scale.