A thought about getting the most out of the Vine

[Bill HH]

What bit of ground I have is mostly devoted to flowers, I actually prefer containers for veg.

[bearded bloke]

PTD have you got any pics on here of your container growing? I also grow in containers and am a nosey beggar and like to see other peoples ideas of how to get around no ground .

They pop up in his posts quite often Moopmoop,also checkout the album in Bill's sig ^^ & posts by All in Containers

[Moopmoop]

I feel slightly ashamed to say that I do have a small patch of ground that I could use if I wanted to but feel it's unnecessary work when I get along just fine with my containers. In the middle of summer I thoroughly enjoy moving things around, it's like the hokey cokey in and out the blow-away and a merry go round with the rest of the pots. My prerogative tho ain't it

[Hazel at the Hill]

I know that lots of peeps are shy, or don't want to do the chatty stuff as it's not their style, but it seems to me that there are an awful lot of members who join to start a thread to ask a question, then either don't come back to it for ages (ever?) - or ONLY come back to their own threads to glean the information proffered.

If you always ask, and stick to your own threads, and don't 'give back' - just by being friendly or to even say 'thank you', that's not fair on those who out of the goodness of their own keyboards use their knowledge and time help others.

Fortunately there are plenty of members who do join and ask a question and get sucked into the community, contribute enormously and help others along the merry gardening highway.

In fact, you can't shut some of them up!!

[bearded bloke]

In fact, you can't shut some of them up!!

She will if you feed her more bizkitz Hazel

*BB runs away & hides from pointy stick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[Two_Sheds]

a simple 'thank you'

yep, such a small word but it makes life so much more pleasant. Good manners seem to be considered a weakness these days, with "sorry" being used equally rarely, esp. when driving.

[Veggiemama]

I know that lots of peeps are shy, or don't want to do the chatty stuff as it's not their style, but it seems to me that there are an awful lot of members who join to start a thread to ask a question, then either don't come back to it for ages (ever?) - or ONLY come back to their own threads to glean the information proffered.

If you always ask, and stick to your own threads, and don't 'give back' - just by being friendly or to even say 'thank you', that's not fair on those who out of the goodness of their own keyboards use their knowledge and time help others.

Fortunately there are plenty of members who do join and ask a question and get sucked into the community, contribute enormously and help others along the merry gardening highway.

In fact, you can't shut some of them up!!

While i sort of agree with what you have said here, i also disagree a little, or, rather, would like to add something.

There are many reasons why people dont join in etc.
ME...... I read the vine every day. Its what i do when i first get up and have my coffee before i get everyone else up. Although i dont post and have only recently started again (and yes, it was to get advice) i feel like i know you all. I read the chat thread and love to read about what you are all up to.
My life is so so busy. I have 2 boys, one with Autism, and my time is totally taken up looking after them, the house and my favourate, the garden.
everything is a mess, the house and the garden, at this time of year, i am outside all the time. I grow from home and am lucky to have the space at home to do this.

My garden and my growing are saving me :-) Its MY therapy when things are challenging or stressful with the boys.

I suppose i am digressing, but needed to give a little bit of background.

It may seem strange, but when i do get time to myself to read the vine, i am usually too tired to talk....or even type and like to just read.
I am on my own most of the time with the boys so really feel a part of the vine (without joining in) even when Mr VM is here after work i still like to catch up on the vine :-)

The type of person i am, i now feel a little pressure to post more often. I feel like i have done something wrong by just reading and not joining in......
I know this thread was NOT intended to make me feel this way, its just the way i am.
I also know and feel, that i cqn post my feelings here and it will be read in the right way.

I also lack the confidence to give others advice, even though i know what i would say. I know i am good at what i do, but lack the confidence to pass on advice. Its sorta like, i dont feel i am as experienced as others and feel that i havent passed the gardening test yet.......hope you know what i mean by that.

I have a bit of time today, so i may post a little.

Take care
Veggiemama

[Two_Sheds]

I read the vine every day. Its what i do when i first get up and have my coffee

same here

My life is so so busy.

same here. Life is so hectic these days. Although we don't have the same stresses as previous generations, we are still "running just to stand still" ... it's all go, all the time.


Hazel wasn't aiming her thread at you, as you know. She was just gently reminding people to thank each other for advice/support/respect given

Your signature is spot on with this ethos: "If someone has lost their smile, give them one of yours"

[arpoet]

Strangers are friends we have yet to meet.

Thank you all for all the help and advice given not only to me but to many other on the vine.

I too visit several times a day but don't always get involved.

[gardening_gal]

I know that lots of peeps are shy, or don't want to do the chatty stuff as it's not their style, but it seems to me that there are an awful lot of members who join to start a thread to ask a question, then either don't come back to it for ages (ever?) - or ONLY come back to their own threads to glean the information proffered.

If you always ask, and stick to your own threads, and don't 'give back' - just by being friendly or to even say 'thank you', that's not fair on those who out of the goodness of their own keyboards use their knowledge and time help others.

[devil's advocate head on]

Just like in the real world (yes I struggle to think this isn't real too ) people are all different. Some are warm and chatty, others would struggle to raise a smile.

Although I know what you mean, I think it's maybe a wee bit unfair to think that people should all act in the same way and that they are somehow not as nice if they just come here to ask something, get an answer and then move on. If members here want to answer their question then they should really do so only to to impart information, there really shouldn't be any strings attached.

Sites like these mean different things for different people. I kinda feel uncomfortable when I see people being 'castigated' (that's probably a bit strong but I can't think of another word right now, lol) for not behaving in a certain way or not being the type of person other people think they should be.

Although, having said that, yes, I agree completely agree with you that it costs nothing to be nice and a 'thank you' would only take a moment to post, even if they aren't up for any other interaction.

And whilst I'm on a roll, I often feel uncomfortable reading the rant thread. It seems a tad hypocritical to be a site that strives to keep it's reputation of being friendly & civil, yet posts are made on the rant thread which are nothing more than thinly veiled digs at other members and these are a) left unchallenged and b) condoned by the very fact they are left alone and not deleted.

I've often thought one of the rules should be no ranting about other members, thinly veiled or otherwise.

[/devil's advocate head off]

I'm generally a friendly sort and I'd be happy if everyone could just group hug and be nice. I have cake?

Oh and btw, I do always thank those who help me and I do try to help others when I can (which isn't very often, lol) but just in case anyone is in any doubt -

Thank you all, you're a good bunch and you've helped me a lot!

[Veggiemama]

I forgot this:-

I would also like to thank everyone, past and present for all the great advice given. I have read a lot of the vine and in the winter i re-read all the old posts too.

I also want to thank the vine for the motivation it gives me. There are some days when the weather isnt so good or i just dont feel up to much, that after reading the vine, i feel totally motivated to get up off my ass and get going :-)

So, Thank you to all on the vine for that too

[Glutton4...]

I was updating my list of on-line passwords, recently, and noticed that I have joined about a dozen Forums in the last ten years. I have recently gone back to ask a question on one of them (not gardening related), after a long break, but the 'Vine is the only one I ever use, and I 'visit' most days, although less in summer when I'm busy.

When I first joined, I was a real Forum novice, and it took a while to get the hang of it, and feel settled-in. Threads would pop up from time to time, saying how great this Forum was compared to others, and I let it wash over me, as I had no experience of on-line communities. Other people I speak to in 'real' life, who use other sites, all say how spiteful, cliquey (or clicky, if you're from round 'ere!) or downright nasty some of them are.

When this site 'died' one night, I joined the detested FB. Which I still detest, for a number of reasons, but I keep with it, in a small way, as I have contact with many people I first 'met' on here. This site has a HELLUVA LOT TO ANSWER FOR! Most of it very very good.

Bummocks, now I'm late...

[Nannysally99]

Let me put my point of view on this, for what it's worth.
When I first joined I couldn't find the thread to introduce myself, so I just didn't. I too sat around reading other peoples threads and gained so much invaluable knowledge. It is only now after two seasons growing that I can make any comments on gardening things - and still my knowledge is basic.
The very fact that everyone seemed to know each other so well made me think extremely carefully about posting. Just me being silly I know that now.
So to all Grapes out there that read only, come on in, they don't bite

[Hazel at the Hill]

Although, having said that, yes, I agree completely agree with you that it costs nothing to be nice and a 'thank you' would only take a moment to post, even if they aren't up for any other interaction.

That't *exactly* what I'm trying to say - you've summed up in a sentence what it's taken me two long posts to try and put into words!

[gardening_gal]

That't *exactly* what I'm trying to say - you've summed up in a sentence what it's taken me two long posts to try and put into words!

Yes but talking is good.

Why be short when you can wax lyrical.

Or is that just me? I probably talk too much. I like talking.