Random questions

[Small pumpkin]

Anyone know the best way to get planning excepted in Scotland? Would it sway in your favour if you said you were starting a market garden? Or make things more complicated?

Second random question.
Anyone know how to build a drive way across a bog ?

[Mr Bones]

Sorry, can't answer either SP but it sounds interesting. Good luck with it

[Jay-ell]

No idea but what usage is the land scheduled for at the moment? What are you asking for planning permission for - buildings, change of land usage? Are there any buildings there already? If so, do they have any tied usage (e.g. tied to agricultural or forestry work)?

Building a road across a bog? Cant you buy an amphibious off road vehicle instead

Not sure but the first thing would be build some form of support across first - I know that they used to use bundles of reeds for this but they would need to be replaced regularly.

How long a road and how heavy is the traffic?

I'd expect you'd have to dig ditches either side, install a plastic grid system to hold the base gravel/sand then build up on top of that - but I'd recommend gtting advice from someone who knows what they're talking about.

[Cadalot]

Booklet a Guide to Planning Permission in Scotland but check the Island does not have it's own version https://www.gov.scot/resource/doc/281542/0084999.pdf

How to build a Road across a Bog in the 60's including explosives but the film was made in Ireland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q09CVwnA5Os

The more modern way of dealing with a bog road https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehf19EUZCAE

[Jay-ell]

That's the kind of plastic grid I was thinking about.

Of course if you have to remove the peat remember to keep enough for the potting mixes.

[Small pumpkin]

No idea but what usage is the land scheduled for at the moment? What are you asking for planning permission for - buildings, change of land usage? Are there any buildings there already? If so, do they have any tied usage (e.g. tied to agricultural or forestry work)?

Building a road across a bog? Cant you buy an amphibious off road vehicle instead

Not sure but the first thing would be build some form of support across first - I know that they used to use bundles of reeds for this but they would need to be replaced regularly.

How long a road and how heavy is the traffic?

I'd expect you'd have to dig ditches either side, install a plastic grid system to hold the base gravel/sand then build up on top of that - but I'd recommend gtting advice from someone who knows what they're talking about.

I believe the land at present is just rented out to the local estate for grazing ( but never used, only seen red deer walking across it ).
Planning would be for a new build. No buildings currently on site.
Drive way would probably be 200 / 250 meters by time it's gone rounnd boulders and the like.
Initially it'd be access for building work. So it'd have to be fairly robust.
Where's the best place to find someone who knows what they're talking about?

[Small pumpkin]

Thanks cad.
I'll have a look at them later. Really must go to work.

[Small pumpkin]

Just had a quick look at the bog road construction (modern version). Instead of getting ready for work. Well you should always make time for your dreams (or fantasies that need a bl@@dy miracle! ).

That's brilliant. I now have an idea where to start looking. Thanks again cad.

[veggiechicken]

I know nothing about Scottish planning laws - sorry.
In Wales we have "One Planet development" which allows homes to be built on land where planning would not normally be given. These homes have to be be self sufficient, off-grid and generate an income (like market gardening). Although it only applies in Wales, you may be able to glean ideas to strengthen your case for a newbuild. Start at 10 Good Reasons | One Planet Council

Is the land part of a ?national park/ site of special scientific interest/nature reserve or does it have any other special status that might stop development of it. You mention "bog" - rare plants, that sort of thing.
Sounds exciting - everyone should have a dream.

[Greenleaves]

In addition to the links Cads sent, this a checklist for the Highlands and Islands

https://www.highland.gov.uk/info/180...g_permission/2

[veggiechicken]

Any help at About Our Island Home — Rural Housing Scotland

[Small pumpkin]

Wow, thanks everyone. I've got a lot of reading to do this evening

[elsie-scot]

There is a link to whether the land is in conservation area here https://www.argyll-bute.gov.uk/permitted-development

There is also the Argyll and Bute planning handbook, I can't link as it goes straight to pdf. Haven't read it but would hope that would have some answers on change of land use.

Completely different planning but when we build an extension to side of house both the builder and architect knew exactly what was needed for planning. So if you know any local ones worth having a word.

[Miss Mousetrousers]

Building a road across a bog was something that was first done in the Bronze-Age if not before. One dated between 2,300 and 2,200 BC lies about 6 miles south of where I live in Pilling. It's called Kate's Pad which was constructed of oak trees split into 17' lengths which were hammered into the boggy moss land and covered with oak planks. I live on previously drained moss land about a mile away from Cockersand Abbey and am pretty sure they had a similar construction that was either already there or one was made so the Abbey inhabitants could gain access across the bog to the higher land of Thurnham village which was already there when the Domesday Book was written.

[4Shoes]

On the farm we had a bog due to a spring. Drain pipe to spring and it was gone. Might be that simple.

I think the romans used wool to build roads over moors and a Lake District foot path was repaired using sheep wool.

Lake District footpaths fixed with sheep wool | The Westmorland Gazette

Think they call is construction fabric these days. 4m wide and white. Lay fabric and cover with hardcore.

Gut feeling is that business planning will be more difficult than business, but best advice is to talk to a builder or "trusted" local councillor to see what will fly and sequence of steps.

Got my extension built without fuss and minimal inspection because builder was a known quantity to planning and building control.