Introduce myself to the forum

[Jose-Albacete]

- Pear Jeanne D'Arc



- Pear Precoce de Trevoux



- Pear Pierre Corneille



- Pear Van Mons ( Belgian variety very very old , and not to be confused with the Van Mons Leon Leclerc variety)



- Pear Carmen



Continued on next post

[Jose-Albacete]

More pears

- Pear Bon Chretien d'Hiver



- Pear Starkrimson



- Pear Doyenne du Comice



- Pear Delbard Super Comice



- Pear Gigante de Leon

[Jose-Albacete]

And the last pear for today

- Pear Concorde



Today it was very hot in the orchard (the thermometer of my car marked 42º C), and I have only done these photos of varieties of pears, but I think it's enough.

Cadalot I'm glad you like cherries (what comes next is your fault jajajajaja).

Before starting with my collection of cherries, I have to say that I have friends who are professional producers of cherries in the regions of Villena in the province of Alicante, and in the Valley of the Jerte in Extremadura, they export to many foreign countries, and England Is characterized by having a predilection for the varieties of acidic cherries (this type of varieties do not like in Spain), here we have predilection for the very sweet varieties, large size and crunchy in the mouth.

And this is my collection of varieties of cherries (there is possibility, that I forgot some variety)

- 4-84
- Belge
- Bigallise
- Brooks
- Cashmere
- Celeste
- Duroni 3
- Early Bigy
- Early Lory
- Early Red Maraly
- Early Star
- Frisco
- Ignet
- Nimba
- Prime Giant
- Rocket
- Royal Dawn ( C-14 )
- Selah
- Skeena
- SPC-106 Sofia
- Staccato
- Sumburst
- Summerland
- Summit
- Sweet Early
- Sweetheart
- Tieton


And these varieties are the crown jewels:
It is the series "Sweet del Alma Mater " of the University of Bologna (they are varieties of a quality really spectacular, and very difficult to obtain)

- Sweet Valina

http://www.ciliegio.unibo.it/images/...eda_valina.pdf

- Sweet Saretta

http://www.ciliegio.unibo.it/images/...da_saretta.pdf

- Sweet Gabriel

http://www.ciliegio.unibo.it/images/...da_gabriel.pdf

- Sweet Lorenz

http://www.ciliegio.unibo.it/images/...eda_lorenz.pdf

- Sweet Aryana

http://www.ciliegio.unibo.it/images/...eda_aryana.pdf

- Sweet Stephany

http://www.ciliegio.unibo.it/images/...doc/sweste.pdf



Guys, I have to go back to work, I'll be back tonight.

a greeting
Jose

[Snoop Puss]

Hi José. I'm positively jealous. I live in Teruel. Even though we are maybe only 100 km from Tarragona, our climate is very different. Generally, it is very dry here and extremely hot in summer and cold in winter, but we lost all of our cherry and plum trees to flooding a few years back one summer, so I am a bit reluctant to start again. Extreme weather events are definitely becoming more frequent.

That said, I'm really looking forward to seeing your apple tree collection. The apples we buy here are not very good in comparison with English apples, but I'm sure you will have some intriguing ones.

Anyway, welcome to the forum and thanks for sharing all your varieties and photos with us.

Un abrazo.

[Jose-Albacete]

Hi Snoopy Puss, a real pity the happened with your cherry trees.
First of all, let me give you some advice.
In my orchard, I have had a problem different from yours, but I also lost many cherries trees years ago because of the worm that drills the cherry trees, in Spain we commonly call it " gusano cabezudo ", and its scientific name is Capnodis tenebrionis.
I discovered that my plums they were not attacked by this coleoptero, so I decided to change my rootstock, since my cherry trees were grafted on rootstocks of the Santa Lucia type, and their clone SL 64 (an improved variety of Santa Lucia), and after of much information, I chose the the "Monrepos" rootstock, is a rootstock obtained by the CITA (Center for Research and Agri-Food Technology of Aragon), is a variety of plum grafting compatible with cherry (like the rootstock Adara), but Monrepos is much more resistant and better Rootstock.
With this rootstock, you will not have root problems, although the rootsotcks remain months flooded, and you will not have problems with the coleoptero Capnodis tenebrionis, is a very vigorous rootstock, of very rapid growth.
I leave your description :

http://www.cita-aragon.es/pub/docume...2_de25ea1e.pdf

This rootstock you can buy at a very good price in the month of December in the nursery Veron , call Omar Garcia by phone (he is the type that is in charge of the commercial department, and is a great guy). And if you do not speak Spanish, you send an email to Omar .
I give you the data of Omar, to contact with the :

Viveros Veron
Omar García
Comercial
T: +34609180691 / +34976881007
ventas@viverosveron.com



As for apples there are very good varieties in almost all continents, but the difficult is to get cuttings of the varieties of apples really good.

I am currently trying to get some varieties of apples, for example these twoo varieties :

The Belgian variety "Zari"
This apple:

Zari Apples

https://www.google.com/patents/US20070113309


And the New Zealand variety Envi-Scilate.
This apple

ENVY® SCILATE C.O.V.

https://www.google.com/patents/USPP20477


As for my collection of apple varieties, this is the list (I may have forgotten some variety)


Ahrista
Alexander
Ambrosia
Anna
Antares Dalimbel
Ariane Les Naturianes
Belchard Chantecler
Cameo-Caudle
Chailleux
Choupete Dalinete
Clovis
Crimson Crips
Daliclass
Dalilight
Delbard Belgolden
Delbard D’hiver
Delbard Celeste Deltana
Delbard Cybèle
Delbard Festival
Delbard Jubilé Delgollune
Delbard Jumbo
Delbard Régali
Delbard Tentation
Delbardivine Delfloga
Doriane
Elstar Dalistar
Eva
Evelina
Florina Querina
Fuji Kiku Fubrax
Fuji September Wonder
Fuji Suprema
Fuji Zhen Actec
Gala Brookfiels
Gala Buckeye
Gala Galaval
Gala Galaxy
Gala Shinga
Galmac
Gerlinde
Ginger Gold Early Gold
Gloster 69
Golden Smoothee CG10
Goldrush
Granny Smith Challenger
Gravestein Rouge
Grosse Noire
Honey crisp
Idared Standard
Initial
Jazz- Scifresh
Jonagold Daliryam
Juliet
Junami –Milwa
Kanzi La Nicoter
Karneval
King Jonagold
La Douce
La Nationale
Melrose
Mondial Gala
Oregon Spur
Pacific Rose
Pate de loup
Pilot Dalirene
Pink Lady
Pitchounette
Princesa
Red Chief
Red Idared
Rewena
Rubens-.Civni
Rubinette Rosso
Rubinola
Sinta
Smitten
Story Inored
Sundowner
Suntan
Swee Tango
Sweet Sixteen

Best regards
Jose

[Baldy]

Jose

Blimey!
Very nice. I think I speak for everyone when I say - "photos" !
You clearly have a lot of technical knowledge about your fruit - and there are some on this forum who are also in to that - but please remember us 'mere mortals' - I don't know if there is a Spanish equivalent for the phrase "a picture paints a thousand words" but I would love to see some photos of your trees. (Please)

[Snoop Puss]

Thanks José, that's brilliant advice. The roots of our cherry trees were indeed months under water. I don't know what the rootstock was as I just bought the trees from a local vivero.

My Spanish is fair. We lived in Barcelona for nearly 20 years and have been in our current home for 10. I'm going to really enjoy looking at the Viveros Verón website. It might fill me with renewed enthusiasm for fruit trees.

[Jose-Albacete]

Hello again Spnoop Puss.
If you really want to grow fruit trees resistant to soggy soils, I recommend the rootstock " Adesoto-Puebla de Soto " , here is their description:

PUEBLA DE SOTO

It is a selection of the Experimental Station Aula Dei (Zaragoza) made by Doctors Mariano and Rafael Cambra, in the late 60s, starting from a Pollizo de Murcia type fine " is a local variety of plum ", appeared in the town of Puebla de Soto (Murcia) . It is a rootstock suitable for peach, nectarine, almond, plum and apricot.

Agronomic characteristics:

Mean strength (15% less than Nemaguard).
Suitable for intensive plantings.
Induce, in the grafted variety, precocity, better color and higher sugar content in the fruits.
Great productivity.
Resistant to root asphyxia.
Resistant to active limestone.
Resistant to neck and root diseases.
It adapts well to all types of soil especially to heavy.
Very good root anchorage (emits some sierpes).
It confers good productivity.
Anticipation of harvest.
Good caliber and fruit coloring.


This one is so resistant to the waterlogging that I have recommended it to an American friend who lives in the marshes of Louisiana.

As a picture is worth a thousand words, you will see a photograph of a plantation of peaches in the Ebro River Delta (it is the tree planting of my friend Peret), the trees remain soaked for at least 3 months a year, this rootstock is happy inside the water.

You can buy it in nurseries Mariano soria, and in nurseries Cotevisa.
These are your web pages :

PORTA INJERTOS PARA MELOCOTON Y NECTARINA | Viveros Mariano Soria

Catálogo: Portainjertos - Cotevisa.

Best regards
Jose

[Jose-Albacete]

Plantation of peaches of my friend Peret



Best regards
Jose

[Jungle Jane]

Have you tried the rootstock Adafuel in flood areas? I don't have floods I'm just looking for a friend
"‘Adafuel’ showed the highest vigor with 66 cm of trunk girth. After 8 crops, the highest accumulated yield was obtained on ‘GF 677’ with 411 kg/tree followed by ‘Adafuel’ with 405 kg/tree. The lowest yields were obtained on ‘Brompton’ and ‘Puebla de Soto 101’ with 219 and 214 kg/tree respectively."
ROOTSTOCK INFLUENCE ON THE PERFORMANCE OF THE PEACH VARIETY ‘CATHERINE’ | International Society for Horticultural Science

[Jose-Albacete]

Jungle Jane, of the hybrid rootstocks of almond x peach , the two varieties most used are:

- GxN 15 Garnem
- GF 677

Due to the homogeneity of the crops.

Adafuel, in spite of being a rootstock suitable for all types ov varieties of stone fruit , was used years ago, practically in exclusivity like rootstock for almond tree, and later has been substituted by the two previously mentioned.

Both GxN15 Garnem and GF-677 are rootstocks that are quite adapted to the crop in dry conditions (without irrigation), for certain varieties of almonds, such as the "Guara" variety, but with other more productive varieties, for example The variety "Lauranne", it is necessary that the plantation is in irrigated conditions , and for stone fruit the irrigation in Spain is "obligatory".

Production is not measured in kilograms / tree, because the more dwarf rootstocks need a smaller planting frame than the more vigorous rootstocks, so that production is measured in kilograms / hectare.

And the choice of rootstock depends of the soil and weather conditions.

I personally do not recommend the Adafuel rootstock, the hybrid rootstock that I like best and that best suits my terrain is GxN15 Garnem.

But if you are interested in getting Adafuel rootstock, there are some nurseries in Spain that still market it.

Best regards
Jose

[TrixC]

Hi Jose, and welcome to the forum. I dream about having an orchard like yours! I'm from New Zealand originally, it looks like you have a lot of New Zealand apples in your collection.

[Snoop Puss]

José, that is a huge collection of apple trees! Where do you get them from? Do you do a lot of grafting yourself?

[fishpond]

Speechless, Wow!

[Jose-Albacete]

Snoop Puss , many of the varieties of apples have been bought in nurseries for professionals, and many other varieties not available in European nurseries, I have grafted them (It is not ethical to say in an open forum how to get the graft cuttings ) .


fishpond , do not be surprised, the apples, pears, and cherry trees are not the "strong point" of my orchard , I have infinitely more interesting varieties, but these varieties can not be said or displayed in open forum.

Best regards
Jose