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hello im new to the allotment scene and have been given some seeds by a friend some are marked as f1 on the packet what does this mean
im stumped
im stumped
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It just means their are specially selected and grown, i prefer heirloom seeds but its up to you!
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F1 means that they are the product of a cross. If you save the seeds yourself then they will not end up being the same thing you grew the year before (genetics).Comment
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yeah I tend to keep clear of f1's especially if you're thinking of saving their seed - but on the other hand they've often been crossed for specific purposes (say carrot root fly resistance) so they're not necessarily totally evil!
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F1 means first generation Cross where two seed parent specifically crossed will produce the variety on the front Bit like chooks for egg laying. You can save the seeds yourself but they won't come true to type, they may be better, they may be worse.
Another couple of problem with F1 seed is that
1) It is expensive & you tend not to get so much in a packet as it has to be produced under conditions that don't allow for crossing with other varieties (I deliberatley didn't say laboratory conditions as this gives rise to GMO ideas & they're not grown like that, they are close pollenated)
2) It is very uniform in habit, great if you want to sell 25 acres of peas to Mr Birdseye not great if you want to have a reasonable cropping period (say a few weeks)
As you've been given them you've got nothing to loose!! so sow away without any worries.
When it comes to next year (or later on this year even) & you want to buy your seeds, just have a think - do you want to save your own seeds? if you want to , then buy open pollenated varieties If your not bothered well carry on as you are. You may not want to get involved in seed saving yet, but if you do, get Sue Stricklands book on seed saving & start with the easy ones Peas & Beans.Last edited by nick the grief; 31-07-2006, 07:46 PM.ntg
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Hi Dinky Doo - very useful information, I didnt know either! (ha ha!) but at least they didnt cost anything! good luck and let me know how you get on. dexterdog
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It means it is a hybrid number one therefore you can't take seedsHi! Please look at my 'brilliant' site about dolls houses and miniatures! I can always use new members, not matter how much you visit or not! Also, the more members I get the more things I can put on, so go on, do me a favor and at least look!
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There is an F1 hybrid cabbage that is clubroot resistant. Seeds are very expensive so I have toyed wth the idea of seeding one. This should give me an F2 second generation which hopefully will retain some of its parents resistance? Watch this space in about a years time!!!My Majesty made for him a garden anew in order
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Hi Snadger, It won't work I can tell you now, We have trialed these seeds for the company that the seeds in question came from and we have done hundreds and if not thousands of trials on these seeds and if you try this quite honestly you will end up with a crap variety that will have NO resitance to clubroot at all.
You just can't save seeds off F1 varieties it doesn't work.
Sorry.Last edited by Lesley Jay; 29-08-2006, 08:32 PM.Comment
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Saving Carrot Seeds?
Adam...
I saved the seeds from a carrot flower (can't for the life of me remember what I'd planted as it grew from last years plot....
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Anyway.... will these seeds be naff too as they would have been an F1 variety?
Also... the seeds are spikey..???Shortie
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Carrot seed is spikey Shortie. sow it & see you've nothing to loose.ntg Never be afraid to try something new.
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How do you mean 'trialed these seeds' ? Have you grown them in clubroot infested land? and more to the point do they work? Do the plants still get clubroot but show no syptoms? Or is there something in the plant which puts a guard round the plant? And finally what is an F2 then? ( In laymens terms please!) And finally, finally where are the clubroot resistant other brassicas, cauli, sprouts etc Any ideas?Originally posted by seedsforsuccess@fsmail.ne View PostMy Majesty made for him a garden anew in order
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ntg Never be afraid to try something new.
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F1 is partly a question of your ideology. Do you want a specially created cross or do you want an heirloom variety that can't be bought in the shops?Comment
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