Runner bean frame layout advice please.

[moreteavicar]

I have recently revamped part of the garden, so currently a blank canvas.
My plan is to build some Munty type bean frames that will be a permanent fixture.
Garden runs N/S.
My question is do you have any advice if I should build one long one N/S or several short ones E/W?
I luv runner beans! Not had any decent ones since I was a child.

[moreteavicar]

Added some pictures to give an idea of the layout - I need to incorporate a path through the patch.
One long frame N/S right against the tunnel or a path separating them?
Several short rows E/W , again against tunnel or with path separating.
Path down middle of plot?
Frames other side against fence, again, N/S or E/W?

Compost bin for scale...

[Jungle Jane]

If you imagine both lots of plants planted in each direction,they’d all be in the same section of space so I think either way is good

Edit- I didn’t see your second post this reply goes with the first post

[moreteavicar]

If you imagine both lots of plants planted in each direction,they’d all be in the same section of space so I think either way is good

But E/W will use more space as there will be whatever gap i decide, between the frames, equalling more "dead" space.

[Jungle Jane]

Yes from the photo north to south next to the polytunnel would be good but would it shade what’s in the tunnel,I don’t think it would as your south facing?

[moreteavicar]

Part of my dilemma!

[Jungle Jane]

What are you planning for the left side of the garden next to the fence,could the bean frame go there,that’s where I’d put it as its a tall structure,north to south.

[ameno]

I would recommend north-south. If you do east-west then the north side will be in heavy shade all day, whereas north-south means each side is only shaded for half the day at most.

[Plot70]

I have a permanent runner bean structure and had to sort out a problem with flying rats landing on the top bars and ripping off the lead shoots and dropping them to the ground.
I had to fit spile strips made from rusty wire. The rusty wire makes there feet go manky stopping them from landing on sprout tops if they persist with my beans.

[Babru]

Flying rats!! That's a problem I've yet to encounter (thankfully). Are they a Worksop speciality?

[moreteavicar]

Yes Plot70, that is the sort of thing I am planning.

Tell me, do you train the plants continuously?
I have read others saying if you don't, they end up in one, jumbled, mass.

And what are you growing yours up?

[Plot70]

I am growing them up canes/wires with the frame as a main support for the tops of the canes.
The right hand side of the frame is proposed to be a hen run boundary. I will keep the vines off the shared uprights once the hens are out.
Many all cane supports often get blown over by the wind on our plots.