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  • The ideal Allotment Site, what does it have?

    Amazing what attending t'Council Allotment Committee can feed into your ears and cause to come out of your mouth, read on.

    Our council has a new boss and he has applied some logic to our cultivation levels and waiting list.
    Namely some simple data logging, surveying and mathematics!
    After surveying half the councils individual allotment plots (as opposed to sites) there are about 10% to 15% that can be deemed "not cultivated" and reclaimed from current tenants for re-letting, A mixture of entirely uncultivated plots and partially cultivated plots where the tenant will be asked to reduce their plot size.
    The corollary of this is that extrapolated across the entire acreage the council can whistle up somewhere between twenty and sixty individual five rod plots.
    The waiting list has now been monitored beyond the simple quantity of waiters for three months. Over the period Sep-08 to Mar-09 an average of five people per month joined the list. From Apr-09 to Sep-09 an average of thirteen people joined this list. Since the change in data logging which started in Jul-09 an average of five and three-quarter people were allocated plots, meaning the list is growing by five people per month.
    The conclusion.
    While better management of existing plots, read as a stricter interpretation of the "failure to cultivate" clause in the tenancy, may reduce the waiting list, it will not clear it and we will gradually aquire better plotholders who are less likely to give up......

    Therefore we need to investigate the possibilities of resurrecting a derelict site or aquiring a new site of about 250 rentable rod.

    Ooh Mabel pass the smelling salts I feel all faint.

    Muggins here has volunteered to assist with assessing site suitability and writing down what is needed.

    So with as pretty a please as I can manage, can people contribute some sensible lists of what a new site should have, oh and the budget will be tighter than the proverbial ducks.........

    My starter for ten is:
    1. Sheltered and relatively level site, with good topsoil, any down slope being to the south or west, not a wind tunnel or frost pocket.
    2. Secure fence at least 6’ high surrounding entire site.
    3. Water troughs around the site, about one per 50 rod.
    4. Vehicle access to site, with a farm track either, up the middle from the gate with a turning point at the opposite end, or a loop round the perimeter back to the gate.
    5. Some parking space within the site, car equals crèche for young families and mobile tool shed for others.
    6. Clearly marked plots with corner posts separated from their neighbours by two foot six inch wide paths, i.e. wheelbarrow sized, preferably mown grass.
    7. A native hedge planted inside or outside the fence to provide natural barbed wire, blackberries, sloes, rose hips and wind shelter.
    8. A site apiary for up to five hives.
    9. A secure shipping container or site office thingy, either for the site agent, or with the addition of secure internal divisions making up optional rentable store cupboards.
    10. Dump area in two parts, incoming for manure or compost, outgoing for non-compostable waste.
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  • #2
    I have to say that our site has picked up since we had a composting toilet put on it (some of us can only last a short while) - and the real cherry on top would be another grape as a tenant!
    Whooops - now what are the dogs getting up to?

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    • #3
      "Well it's a dirty job, but someone's gotta do iiiiitt..." Well done for volunteering Peter, you're a brave and noble man

      I think your list is fairly comprehensive, the only thing I'd add is a fairly obvious - check about flooding risk, and if there are any springs or suchlike to make the ground un-useable in wet weather. You can usually tell springs easily enough by reedy grass in patches.

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      • #4
        How about a toilet?
        S*d the housework I have a lottie to dig
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        • #5
          Oh Jeanied beat me to it!
          S*d the housework I have a lottie to dig
          a batch of jam is always an act of creation ..Christine Ferber

          You can't beat a bit of garden porn

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          • #6
            LOOS!! Specially for us females of a certain age. I have to use a bucket in my shed.

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            • #7
              AMAZING!
              Common sense in Government?
              Someone with a useful bone in their body?

              My entire understanding of life, the universe and everything is coming crashing down around me.

              Brilliant news, Peter!

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              • #8
                Chickens????????
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                to present to him vegetables and all beautiful flowers.- Offerings of Thutmose III to Amon-Ra (1500 BCE)

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                • #9
                  I think you've got it covered Peter.
                  Our new site rep is pushing for composting toilets on site, but tbh I wouldn't use them. If I need a pee, I go in a bucket in my shed.
                  I'd rather the money was spent on securing the fence or on re-planting the bramble hedge that the council just ripped out, or on reducing the rents.
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                  • #10
                    Plus TS, I hear pee is good for the compost or is this just a fallacy?
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                    • #11
                      Are sheds/ greenhouses a given?

                      Our site doesn't allow either, and the lockup thingy is only open on certain days, between certain hours whenever the moon is in Jupiter and rabbits are seen wearing duffle coats.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bigmallly View Post
                        Plus TS, I hear pee is good for the compost or is this just a fallacy?
                        Yes it is a good accelerator.
                        It's also high in nitrogen: diluted with water you could feed your brassicas with it (on the soil, not the leaves )
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                        • #13
                          The ideal Allotment Site, what does it have?

                          Terry Walton on it.
                          Last edited by seasprout; 21-10-2009, 07:17 PM.
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                          • #14
                            Be carefull Peter with the dump area people tend to bring stuff onto site it is easier than going to the tip and waiting in a que.
                            You would be surprised what was dumped before we stopped having a dump area....jacob
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                            • #15
                              Could we have a pub that serves decent real within 5 minuets walk from the site to "refresh" our selves after a hard days work.?
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