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  • True about the Greenary, Aunty likes it as garnish in Indian dinners
    As well as used to make the base of a curry like the rest of the onion.
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    • Feeling a bit yucky.

      Wall to wall weeds. Flowering squashes, but not many fruits.

      Garlic shallots and onions not quite ready yet. Broadies under there some where.
      Purple shiraz mange toute in their Purple glory. Empty raised beds yet to be filled as I haven't had a window to get compost yet. They are lined with newspaper. Tomatos that effectively a write off;
      Looking very traumatised. Green manures waiting in the wings. The next big window I have is the summer holidays that are four weeks away. Will dig over patches then and sow the green manures.

      Feel very demoralised due to the lack nice weather. So far, I was more successful when I didn't have a plot; with the exception of the onion etc.
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      • Wall to wall weeds. Flowering squashes, but not many fruits.
        "not many fruits" "not many fruits" Oh, the envy ! It hurts. You've got fruiting squashes ! You should see my marrow and courgette plants...I kid you not, the leaves are smaller than my fingernails. They did have bigger leaves, but those withered away because it has taken me weeks to get decent mpc to pot them into.
        And you've seen your weeds ! I haven't been to the allotment since May. Every day I have had free it's either been chucking down rain - which means eight hours in town with nowhere to shelter, and usually not even money to go somewhere for a cuppa - or I've not been fit to get out of bed early enough for my lift, never mind do any gardening. So here I sit in tormented longing, wondering if the slugs and caterpillars have eaten the brassicas, has the Blight got my tatties, how are the strawberries (slugged, I'll bet), and have my carrots and salsify and hamburg parsley and scorzonera come up and have the carrot flies won again this year ? (Although it's a Pyrrhic victory if I decide a little protein supplement with my carrots is in order...)
        Well done on getting your raised beds built at least. That's an infrastructure investment that will pay off in years to come, particularly in other years like this. (Extra height = improved drainage = improved growth. The more there is, the more there is.)
        Don't be so quick to write off your tomatoes. Yes, they need nursing, but like a politician, they only need one brief window of opportunity to burst into glory and stun everyone with their splendour...okay, maybe a politician wasn't a good analogy, but you know what I mean ! My tomatoes are mainly about six inches high and have yellowish leaves; but the stems are fat and beefy, the foliage thick and plentiful and not withering, I reckon the roots are doing well and given heat and sun as well as water they will romp away. Like your allotment, there is not much visible progress, but the groundwork for taking advantage of future chances is there. You may yet be chuffed at how well your broadies survive and thrive without your constant help...
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        • Well I know what you mean about the tomatoes, my plants took so long to grow last summer that only the Tom Thumb ones got ripe at all. And only a couple at a time.

          Tis stinking growing weather this year no matter where you are. And you've been so busy with everything else! It's amazing you got what you did done.

          Snohare, that's awful that you can't get down to the garden unless you're there for 8 hours! Would want to be a very good day when I'd want to spend 8 hours in the garden without a cuppa now and then and a meal in the middle (and no one seems to have enough for a salad this summer!)
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          • It all does feel as though England have yet again crashed out on penalties. I'm sure I've tried to do too much and not thought about it properly. The raised beds, aren't particularly raised. Height of 15cm I think, with each a metre squared. There are four in total, with the one being 33cm high. Dad has some
            Scrap wood somewhere, from which I want to construct a fifth. All I need is to know where his hammer and nails are.

            At the moment, it is hard to get down there for long periods of time. I went down there yesterday for a precious 45 minutes.

            I think once I get to the summer holidays -which are only four weeks away-I shall be able to take proper stock. That means weeding and digging. Only, the more I think of it; the notion of no dig gardening resonates. How can I pursue that, without the lotment committee not passing judgement on the untidiness? I know they do, one of the members told me as such.

            I am rather looking forwards to putting in some winter pansies and more tulips. This years crop of tulips really made me smile; and ended up as cut flowers on our dining table. It was a simple pleasure really.

            There is also some green manuring to be done. There is some clover, fenugreek and grazing rye sat in dad's shed. With the fenugreek, at least Ma can out that into Indian dinners and stuff chappatis with it.

            That is going to be hard. And putting in more over wintering garlic etc with broadies. They haven't done too badly, and are fairly useful.

            I can't grow carrots or parsnips. Tried and failed twice. Cabbages are a wait and see. Ma want her palak, so must figure out that next season.

            Just has to be done in the most practical and plausible way.
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            • I got garlic! Big purple stuff, that looks like it has split. Photographic evidence can be found on the hobbit page on book face thingy.

              It looks industrial strength real life type and everything.
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              • Yes, but does it pass Ma's quality control tests?
                All gardeners know better than other gardeners." -- Chinese Proverb.

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                • Originally posted by horticultural_hobbit View Post
                  I shall be able to take proper stock. That means weeding and digging. Only, the more I think of it; the notion of no dig gardening resonates.
                  You have to get the perennial weeds out first though, before you can begin "no dig". Then you can cover all the bare soil with straw, like Supersprout did.

                  Ah, the committee: I have the same blinkered eyes peering at my plot (my niece described it today as "wild"). I don't do straight lines or bare earth, so it does look untidy to the untrained eye. I intend to make some explanatory signs this summer hols, because I know I'm muttered about behind my back.
                  All gardeners know better than other gardeners." -- Chinese Proverb.

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                  • Industrial strength ? No-one told me there was a stronger version...the man in the shop said everyone was buying Garlic Lite...
                    Well done, quine...don't forget, you can have all sorts of seedlings on windowsills etc in pots, growing away for the next four weeks - the growing season doesn't stop when summer does y'know !
                    I am the last person to talk to for advice on how to be tidy. I fully expect to spend four whole hours just cutting grass by hand and weeding tomorrow...
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                    • Well, she's had a look off the photos, and gave a big 'ahh'.

                      How long should the garlic be dried for in the Wendy house? Think I will dig it all up over the next few weeks
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                      • I'm banned from window sills as it effected the non tiled painted surface of the kitchen; I'll only get told off again. Apparently, having seeds pots inside on the sill borders on unhygienic. And that's that according to the kitchen gaffer that isn't Ma.
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                        • How long should the garlic be dried for in the Wendy house?
                          ...until it's dry !

                          If you find a better way, do let me know, I'm new at this myself. (My first year with garlic for myself.)

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                          • Originally posted by horticultural_hobbit View Post
                            having seeds pots inside on the sill borders on unhygienic.
                            Compost is sterile
                            Seeds are sterile

                            You could argue that the only unhygienic thing is the untiled under-window area
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                            • Oh I see where the gaffer is coming from, biological materiel invites biological contamination. Basic kitchen portering hygiene.
                              But there are reasonable standards; I've seen potted plants safely out of the way on a windowsill in a commercial kitchen. My indoor plants always sit in a gravel tray or one of those deep plastic dishes mushrooms come in, so that all poured water and any plant debris cannot escape. Just to be doubly safe, I put a piece of lino (well, it might be that fake PVC Poundland lino tiling) underneath, so that in the case of a swinging curtain or careless elbow any soil marks will still not go onto the sill itself. Being a tenant, I don't fancy having to cough up for revarnishing etc. (Found out the hard way, carpet tiles and newspaper can both leave well-nigh indelible marks; although blank paper under the carpet tile would probably have been great, carpet looked really nice and was easy to hoover.)
                              How about an upstairs windowsill ? If they want the food, well it needs to start somewhere...a couple of feet, it's not much to ask, is it ?
                              (You might find of course that the whole help-the-scrumptious-food thing is easier to do when they are eating some, so in future years when you need less help...)
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                              • Originally posted by horticultural_hobbit View Post
                                I'm banned from window sills as it effected the non tiled painted surface of the kitchen; I'll only get told off again. Apparently, having seeds pots inside on the sill borders on unhygienic. And that's that according to the kitchen gaffer that isn't Ma.
                                Use plastic drip trays under the pots.

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