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  • #16
    I'm a great fan of cardboard, but it will harbour slugs! Thats fine if you apply it under mulch in Autumn to kill weeds and it rots away by early summer when your tender plants go it.
    Last year as part of my no dig experiment I put a row of potatoes across a section of the plot that was traditionally double dug and totally no dig under cardboard, woodchip, compost etc. the crop was wonderful in the dug part of the rows and decimated by slugs where the cardboard sheeting was! But elsewhere I planted brassicas through cardboard and woodchip last autumn and slug damage was minimal. A beer trap was used once the weather warmed but the plants were big enough not to appeal to the slugs by then.
    So you will learn the foibles as you go along.

    As for sources of mulch/compost etc. I have found a churchyard that pile all thier leaves and hedge trimmings and grass cuttings out of the way. They don't want them and are Happy for me to take it away , best once it's partly composted so it's less volume to haul. Neighbours can be a source of compostable kitchen waste and garden waste if you ask. I also rake autumn leaves from the school field and local footpaths. Our local council give away free 'soil improver' once a year on a shovel it yourself basis, it's not great but it is free and makes decent soil improver or mulch (look out for small plastic content).
    Local stables or horse keepers often have a surfit of ....stuff to give away. Try and get older material that has undertaken some composting already, or get it 'green' and leave it bagged or stacked a few months.
    Cardboard is good added to green compostable waste to make rich compost. Woodchip if you can find a tree surgeon locally they may deliver (tip) a load to the plot and you can just barrow it to store or use. Beware of burying fresh woodchip, there is a risk of it withholding nitrogen from the soil it touches while it starts to break down, it doesn't seem to bad laid on the surface though.

    I seem to get excited about this so I'll go away now.

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    • #17
      Yes, mulching and cardboard can increase the slugs for a while but given a bit of time it can reach an equilibrium with things like rove/black beetles moving in (leave/plant some areas of tufting grasses for them to hide in - not couch grass) and centipedes (who happen to like exactly the same environment provided by the mulches). Thrushes will recognise the mulch as leaf litter and will pop down to root through it looking for slugs and other crawlies (and at the same time aerating the mulch and helping it break down into the soil).

      Walking round with a pointy stick and setting up slug hotels can also help you keep the slugs down. If you are ok with slug pellets a slight judicial sprinkling around the most vulnerable plants will help.

      Did you know that slugs like to eat decaying materials? Like decaying plant matter used in mulches? Ever thought that the slugs would be helping you improve your soil?

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      • #18
        Hi. Newbie here too.
        I’ve recently taken on a half plot allotment which seems huge to me (around 240m2) and have also read a lot about no dig methods over the years. It’s how I made small raised beds in the back garden.
        My question to those of you that do it that way, do you make few large beds or many narrow beds (4 foot strips)?
        On a small scale it makes sense to do 4ft widths to avoid treading on the beds too much but with the size area I have, if have so many paths it seems a bit daft.
        Your advice would be very welcome.

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        • #19
          Welcome!
          As well as all the great advice & friendly folk here, if you're interested in no dig I'd join the 'No Dig Gardening - Undug' group on facebook which is moderated by Charles Dowding's partner.
          My plot is no dig & has saved me lots of effort this year. Mulches have made a big difference in this hot weather, reducing the amount of watering needed as well as suppressing weeds.
          Whatever approach you take, remember to stop & look around once in a while & enjoy your garden/plot!

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          • #20
            Thanks realramona. I shall certainly try to do that!!

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Sith Gardener View Post
              Hi. Newbie here too.
              I’ve recently taken on a half plot allotment which seems huge to me (around 240m2) and have also read a lot about no dig methods over the years. It’s how I made small raised beds in the back garden.
              My question to those of you that do it that way, do you make few large beds or many narrow beds (4 foot strips)?
              On a small scale it makes sense to do 4ft widths to avoid treading on the beds too much but with the size area I have, if have so many paths it seems a bit daft.
              Your advice would be very welcome.
              Been looking at some of the market garden channels on Youtube they use a 30 inch bed (as they can straddle these beds) with 10" paths.

              Those fixed paths aren't really a waste of space because in a big bed planting you might have plants 6" apart with 12" between rows, in a raised bed you might have them 6" in all direction so the growing space works out similar.

              Both my plots are raised beds.

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              • #22
                Crickey. That would be a hell of a lot of beds on my plot. It’s over 100’ long by 23’ wide.
                Gawd knows where I’m going to get enough material to cover it all if I do go the no dig method that I’d like to. Without breaking the bank that is. Sourcing the cardboard will be easy but the ‘compost’ to put over the top...

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                • #23
                  Gathering enough organic material for no dig is the big problem for most. I feel that it is not necessarily easier than digging so much as different effort at a more leisurely pace. Sources I have found beneficial are autumn leaves (getting someone else to gather them into bags and just carting them away is favourite). Council compost/soil improver, and stable manure.
                  Local parks and church yards can be a good source of organic compost piles.

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                  • #24
                    do you have green bins? My neighbours on both sides have agreed that if I get there before the council on Saturday morning, I can have the contents. My compost heap is now looking a lot more healthy.

                    I'm sure they think I'm nuts (especially one side where my first conversation with them was "you aren't throwing that cardboard away are you?"), but hey
                    Last edited by bikermike; 03-09-2018, 01:26 PM.

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                    • #25
                      Do you have any transport? If so, take a trip along your nearest rural lanes. Often folk who own animals will have manure offered free to anyone willing to collect- only trouble is it takes ages to get the smell out of the car, and it can be a very long distance for a wheelbarrow...

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