How many allotments do you get per acre?

[LizyDrippin]

As the title suggests

How many allotments do you think you would get per acre?

I'm in the middle of some rightous indignation planning. Can't get to sleep because I'm annoyed because the very nice man (and he was really nice about it told me I wasn't local enough for the allotments

So now I'm planning to overthrow the establishment and start my own site

Well I'm looking at starting a group in the area to campaign get funding etc for a new site

But as a ballpark figure does anyone know how many allotments you would get on an acre. That way I can figure out what size of plot would be needed

I've contacted some people to see if there is already a group set up, no point reinventing the wheel

Just need to wait and see and plan

Why am I reminded of the bit at the start of War Of The Worlds (the musical if you know what I mean - with Richard Burton voiceover - at least that who I think it was) when it talks about the martians planning away in secret waiting to attack,

Liz

[Eyren]

I would say as a rule of thumb you can get about a dozen full-size allotments per acre:

1 acre = 4840 square yards

1 standard 10-pole allotment = 55 yards x 5.5 yards

4840 / (55 x 5.5) = 16

Allowing space for paths and a general entry area (our site has a portacabin that acts as a shop/storage area/committee office, and a bit of space for deliveries of manure, etc), a dozen plots seems a reasonable number. Funnily enough, our 2-acre site has about two dozen tenants...

[Snadger]

The answer is...............no idea off the top of my head! but I could probably work it out!

An average plot is 10 rods or 10 poles.(an old land measurement)

Google how many square yards in an acre and then how many square yards in a pole.

Divide one by tuther and there's your answer!

Got to go to work now so haven't got time, but if no ones given you a constructive answer by this evening I'll let you know then!

PS Just to complicate the issue...........land is usually measured in Hectares these days!

[Snadger]

Eyren types faster than me!

[Eyren]

D@#ned right I do

(Hey, I do it for a living - what can I say?)

[LizyDrippin]

PS Just to complicate the issue...........land is usually measured in Hectares these days!

It might be measured in it by my brain works, well it doesn't, in a mixture of measurements

Thats education in the 70s for you, started off in imperial and ended in a metric mix, I never did get the hang of it all

I've earmarked a field it wouldn't be the whole field, just a little corner, couple of acres plus parking etc It's close enough to the villages to be near but far enough away so that the local youths are unlikely to travel to it

It runs along the old railway line thats now a bike path which strangely enough runs past my house as well, what a coincidence,

I reckon if I work hard and really go for it I could have the new site up and running and properly funded by the end of the century. Is 133 too old to take on an allotment?

[BarleySugar]

I worked this one out for our proposed new allotment site (we needed to know how much land we were looking for). It works out 16.something per acre full size (10 rod, 250 square metre) plots, but that doesn't allow much for paths, so you need to factor that in. We were proposing to only let half size plots, with a max of 2 if people wanted them. Hopefully we have another meeting with the council at the end of the month to see how they are progressing their end.
If you haven't any 'local' allotments, have you talked to your council about a new site? Ours has agreed to lease the land from the landowner, then lease it back to the society at a peppercorn rent (his words). The plus side is they are looking for at least a 25 year lease, so the allotments would have a long term existance. The allotment society will run it, collect rents, and pay the council. The money over will pay insurance, water etc. It was going to be too expensive to go it alone, no one would have wanted to pay the amount we'd have had to charge. We will have to find funding for the set up costs, but they are willing to put us in touch with different bodies that might provide grants, and help us apply. At the moment they are getting the planners to look at the land that might be available for rent to see if there would be any objections. It's still early days, but fingers crossed. The main problem for us is finding land available that is not earmarked for development
This is the borough council we are talking about here, not the parish council. They agreed in principal, but only if it doesn't involve them in any work or financial commitment.

[Bartfastofnapoli]

Hi Lizy
Like you i am close to paisley, however I don’t have the first idea where my nearest allotment is! It appears to be a bit of a secret society
It may be of some use for you to know that it is a Scottish bye-law that the council must provide land and facilities (whatever that entails) to a group of people (numbering over 20) upon request of allotment plots!
Does anyone know of allotments in the Paisley area?

[bubblewrap]

The plots on our site are 300 square yards.
There are 4840 square yards in an acre.
So I would say about 15.

[piskieinboots]

Thats education in the 70s for you, started off in imperial and ended in a metric mix, I never did get the hang of it all

Oh ain't that the truth and to top that I am (so Snowdrop says) numerically dyslexic so I can't even begin to work out for you - or rather I could but you would have been taken over by martians by the time I got there

[Nicos]

I see the OP actually started this thread last Spring- fingers crossed they come back and let us know how they got on????...fingers crossed it's all up and running

[glaw5]

Looking for info like you too Bart. Does anyone know of anywhere in the Paisley or Renfrew area? I've contacted a couple of allotments but not had a lot back. It all does seem a bit difficult to get info.