Best Eating Outdoor Grapes

[falkon]

Hi Folks,
I am Posting after a long time . I hope ya all are fine. I need some recommendation about Best Eating outdoor seedless green/white grape vines,
Location: London and Hampshire region

So far I could only found 'Lakemont' variety, are there any better out there?

Cheers

[ameno]

There are very few seedless varieties suitable to outdoor cultivation in the UK. You might have to settle for one with seeds.

[Ellaallace]

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never heard of that variey

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you can eat all of them ... its just some taste awful Thing is tast is very personal so ideally you need to try some that other people have and see if you like it and then it may not turn out exactly the same - terroir and all that. being in the South/SouthEast you should be able to grow anything within reason. most of the English sparkling wine is made in that region.

[ameno]

you can eat all of them ... its just some taste awful Thing is tast is very personal so ideally you need to try some that other people have and see if you like it and then it may not turn out exactly the same - terroir and all that. being in the South/SouthEast you should be able to grow anything within reason. most of the English sparkling wine is made in that region.

Wine grapes generally are not seedless, though.

[Snadger]

I failed miserably with 'Lakemont' in a cold greenhouse. I got it (at great expense) because of Monty Don recommending it on a TV program..I have planted another grapevine, supposedly seedless, outside of the greenhouse and feeding in through a broken pane of glass. I think I noticed a few buds on it the other day so that's a good sign. Apologies but I forgotten its name, only that it is a green grape.

I have in the past grown a pink seeded grape which tastes divine, is a heavy fruiter in the greenhouse but grows wll outdoors here but alas no grapes when grown this way. I keep taking cuttings of this grape and have a plant in a pot outdoors , asuming its survived the vicious winter we have had here. I know that Boscoop Glory is recommended as a hardy black grape but haven't checked whether it's seedless or not? I also grew Cabenet Sauvignon in my previous greenhouse, but whilst being very tasty it only had blackcurrant sized grapes.

[ameno]

I know that Boscoop Glory is recommended as a hardy black grape but haven't checked whether it's seedless or not?

Boskoop Glory is not seedless.

[falkon]

I failed miserably with 'Lakemont' in a cold greenhouse. I got it (at great expense) because of Monty Don recommending it on a TV program..I have planted another grapevine, supposedly seedless, outside of the greenhouse and feeding in through a broken pane of glass. I think I noticed a few buds on it the other day so that's a good sign. Apologies but I forgotten its name, only that it is a green grape.

I have in the past grown a pink seeded grape which tastes divine, is a heavy fruiter in the greenhouse but grows wll outdoors here but alas no grapes when grown this way. I keep taking cuttings of this grape and have a plant in a pot outdoors , asuming its survived the vicious winter we have had here. I know that Boscoop Glory is recommended as a hardy black grape but haven't checked whether it's seedless or not? I also grew Cabenet Sauvignon in my previous greenhouse, but whilst being very tasty it only had blackcurrant sized grapes.

hmm. so it seems that Lakemont may not be the easiest variety to grow. Many websites recommend this to grow as an outdoor as well as under protection variant. Does 'Rhea' rings bell as pink variety you mentioned. I am more keen to grow green varieties as such. I think I will go for Lakemont and Picurka from victoriannursery

[ChingfordHarry]

I'm confused. Ameno says that Boskoop Glory is not seedless, but Roots plants list it as seedless (https://www.rootsplants.co.uk/produc...pe-vine-3l-pot).

Actually, I came to this thread looking for a white seedless dessert grape for growing outside in London, and am left with Lakemont as the only option - but has anyone got any other ideas?

[Jungle Jane]

RHS says Boskoop Glory’s seedless too…I can’t find the label for my white seedless,I’d try the garden centres for more choice,that’s where I found mine.

[ChingfordHarry]

This is weird. Sunnybank vines, which holds what was the National vine collection, says that Boskoop Glory is not seedless. You might expect them to know since they have the national collection, but I'd also expect Roots plants and the RHS to know.

perhaps there are two different vines calling themselves Boskoop Glory, and one is an imposter!

[Jungle Jane]

I was just looking & one site says ‘almost seedless grapes’ another says ‘listed as not seedless but the seeds are very small’,sounds like it’s the same vine but people make up what they want?

[ChingfordHarry]

Check back here in a couple of years to hear my verdict!