Black Hamburg outside or in ?

[nots so bad lad]

Hi nice to be back online new machine not been on for ages any way hope every bodies ok i have just boughta 2foot blackhamburg for a fiver of somebody on Ebay i am in two minds what to do with it can any body growing one give us some advice please i am thinking of planting root outside then leading it into green house but since read they do ok in a pot ? what should i do with it now as well

Thanks again

[nick the grief]

Welcome back NSBL

That sounds like a plan to me . If you do plant outside you might want to remove the piece of glass & replace with some Plastic (or wood ) with a good size hole in in it elongated to the edge (does that make sense to you? I'll attach a piccie of what I mean) then get some of the pipe insulatin that you can buy from a plumners merchant (it's foam with a cut on one side & fit this around the hole.

It will stop draughts & pests getting in & stop the vine chaffing on the glass.

[yoanbob]

whats a black hamburg?

[Lesley Jay]

A grape variety.

[yoanbob]

ahh, yummy.

[nots so bad lad]

thanks people

Thanks nick the grief sounds good to me weekend coming up should i cut it back as well or leave it to spring

Thanks

[nick the grief]

I'd leave it this year s you want it to settle in & make some timber to get you up to roof height (I assume your training it accros the roof?)

Try looking at this

http://www.readsnursery.co.uk/training_systems.htm

Might give you some Ideas

[Peter]

Used to be the grape of choice for the gentleman who had a vinery.

Where I used to live had one with four Black Hamburg, the roof apex was a good fifteen foot plus, the vines were planted at an angle at the front edge, with a large raised, concrete edged, bed outside for application of dung etc, inside was a duckboard floor on rather compacted soil, while on the back wall was a climbing ophelia, fronted by a five foot deep rainwater tank, then heating pipes below the cast iron grating path. I think there may have been more heating pipes over by the root end. The vines were trained up the four foot front vertical and then up the twenty foot angle to the apex.

Biggest wooden step ladder you have ever seen for pruning and harvesting and general mollycoddling of the fruit, thinning scissors to get that perfect bunch for the master.....

The main stems were over four inches in diameter, this was in the '70s.

Sadly when the place was sold and re-developed the kitchen garden area became a small meadow and a large mews development. That part of the wall still has traces of whitewash and timber fixings.

Bottom line is it is a strong, vigerous and large plant.