Oneida and Late Orange plum

[jaimie]

[QUOTE=FB.;611633]jaimie

FB posted

"It is a common misunderstanding with apples that you can't eat cookers.
In some countries (or some warmer parts of the UK), what we label as "cookers" can sweeten enough to be "eaters". Likewise, in other countries (or cooler parts of the UK), what we label as "eaters" only ripen enough to be "cookers". "

and lots of other interesting info about apples.


Well, fancy that!!!

All these varieties of apples I am planning to cordon along a trellis fence I chose on the description in the catalogue. I chose them with dessertness and keepability in mind. Could I prevail upon you, dear kind FB, to comment on my choice as suitable for purpose please. Or indeed if anyone else has comments about particular varieties I would be grateful.

Ashmeads Kernel Blenheim Orange
Braeburn Chivers Delight
Court Pendu Plat Dog's Snout
Egremont Russet Hornsea Herring
Greensleeves Jupiter
James Grieve Lady Henniker
Orleans Reinette Ribston Pippin
Sturmer Pippin Sunset
Spartan

[jaimie]

Ooops. Sorry about the formatting - it was supposed to be 2 separate columns,hope this is a bit easier to understand

Ashmeads Kernel -------- Blenheim Orange
Braeburn -------- Chivers Delight
Court Pendu Plat------- Dog's Snout
Egremont Russet -------- Hornsea Herring
Greensleeves -------- Jupiter
James Grieve -------- Lady Henniker
Orleans Reinette-------- Ribston Pippin
Sturmer Pippin -------- Sunset
Spartan

I also have a Bramley and two crab apples but they are going to be grown separately

[FB.]

All these varieties of apples I am planning to cordon along a trellis fence I chose on the description in the catalogue. I chose them with dessertness and keepability in mind. Could I prevail upon you, dear kind FB, to comment on my choice as suitable for purpose please. Or indeed if anyone else has comments about particular varieties I would be grateful.

Ashmeads Kernel Blenheim Orange
Braeburn Chivers Delight
Court Pendu Plat Dog's Snout
Egremont Russet Hornsea Herring
Greensleeves Jupiter
James Grieve Lady Henniker
Orleans Reinette Ribston Pippin
Sturmer Pippin Sunset
Spartan

To some extent, suitability would depend on the choice of rootstock and the quality of your soil.

So many things to say about the various varieties - good and bad.

You might want to start a new topic, so as not to overload this plum topic.

You might also like to read this thread:
http://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gra...re-posted.html

Blenheim, Jupiter and Ribston may be too vigorous for cordons (they want to grow into large trees before fruiting).
Court Pendu Plat is very slow growing, so it might need extra feeding to keep up with the others.

Sturmer Pippin is one of the longest-keeping apples. Court Pendu Plat is also a long keeper.

[rob the roller]

Speaking from memory, the plums I tasted at Brogdale were fallen fruit. Most of the fallen plums would have been well past their best, so the ones tasted were probably still in good condition, i.e. ideal for eating. Previous experience harvesting melons for market taught that they are at their very best for eating just about throw away time. The best ones were those that had been previously overlooked and were starting to rot. You cut away the rotten part and what was left was sometimes so full of sugar, it was too sweet to eat. No good for market, but a never to be forgotten perk for the pickers. This might explain why the plums I tased were good to eat raw even though intended for culinary use.

[rob the roller]

On the question of eating cookers, cookers make a welcome addition to freshly squeezed apple juice. Alone, they would probably be too tart, but are terrific when blended with a sweet variety. Have only tasted, so can't comment on varieties, combinations or proportions. A nice summer project for someone?

By the way, if you like roast lamb (especially shoulder which has the best flavour but tends to be fatty) stewed Bramleys mixed with mint sauce served piping hot makes a great accompaniment and is almost another vegetable course.

Rob

[Jeanied]

I know what you mean, Rob, by the taste of plums just about to go over. That's how I eat them on the lottie when the owner has too many to deal with- she lets us gannets have some! And these were plain old Victorias! So sweet and tasty! Not like the plums you buy at all.

[rob the roller]

Thanks to FB and Jeanied for the referral to Keepers. I have just spoken to them. They used to have Late Orange but they have lost the tree. Brogdale apparently has plum pox and is prohibited by Defra from propagating for the next three years. They have suggested contacting Wisley to see if they have either of these varieties. Will keep you updated.

Rob