What to do with inherited vine ...

[The Jones's]

We have a vine in the greenhouse we have inherited on our allotment which is hanging in grapes. The problem is that it has grown so big it has broken some of the windows (many of them are smashed as well).





I don't want to get rid of it completely but have things I would rather grow other than grapes. Would it be possible to transplant the vine outside or to take a cutting and move it outside. Complete novice so not sure.

[realfood]

I would leave it inside if you want to get plenty of ripe grapes. Are they desert grapes?
However, from the photo it does need to be pruned once it is dormant in December or January. There is some information on growing vines in a greenhouse here :- www.growyourown.info/page74.html
See if there is another plotter on your site who can show you how to prune a vine. I will be helping a couple of new plotters on our site, to prune the overgrown vines that they have inherited.
I have 3 grape vines in a small greenhouse to the North side, allowing me to grow tomatoes, cucumbers on the South side of the greenhouse.

[Mell]

Yes you can take cuttings when you prune, use a bit of rooting hormone and plant at least 2/3rds in deept pots. Bottom heat promotes root growth before bud break, sucess will depend on how well that type roots !

Transplanting, I think I'd pune & move the greenhouse rather than transplant.

If it is a wine grape you need lots for wine so large is important & dessert could be grown it situ as a stadard if you prune it, thus freeing up space.

If you want to free up all your greehouse you might be better looking longer term & getting a grape that will tolerate & ripen in outside conditions in your area. and gift this to somebody else.

[rustylady]

The link that realfood posted is excellent. First thing you need to do though is harvest those grapes and try them.

[Two_Sheds]

Please don't kill or compost that beautiful grapevine

I know you're in a rush to get your lotty all "tidy" and you would prefer to start with a clean slate. But don't !

[The Jones's]

Thanks for the replies. I can't move the greenhouse as it's specified on our allotments where they should be on the plot. The vine is at the end where the door should go so you can walk out into the allotment but it has had to be moved to the other end which means we have to walk off the allotment and round the back to get in.

My ideal would be to take a cutting and plant the cutting where I want it and train it properly and give away the main vine but I don't know if it would survive being dug up or how long it would take for the new one to grow. I'd also like to have a go and see if a cutting would grow outside as I'm looking for a fruit to grow on a fence at the mo. It wouldn't be as bad if I could eat grapes but I can't

[Two_Sheds]

My ideal would be to ...give away the main vine (

Have a look here: How to Transplant a Grape Vine | eHow.co.uk

[The Jones's]

OK. Have been back to the allotment today and think I will take the advice on board and leave the vine be for now, it isn't as far over the door space as I thought. I think about 3/4's of the glass is out of the greenhouse so will look to replace that starting around the vine end. I'll prune it at the beginning of December (reading up required) and see how much room and light it takes up next summer.

[Two_Sheds]

I think you're wise to wait a year.
What else would you want to grow in the gh?

[The Jones's]

Mainly chillies, peppers and tomatoes.

[realfood]

A new cutting would take three years at least to fruit.

[Mell]

My ideal would be to take a cutting and plant the cutting where I want it and train it properly and give away the main vine but I don't know if it would survive being dug up or how long it would take for the new one to grow. I'd also like to have a go and see if a cutting would grow outside as I'm looking for a fruit to grow on a fence at the mo. It wouldn't be as bad if I could eat grapes but I can't

If you mean one cutting to stay in the greenhouse, I suggest you cut the vine right back leaving as long a piece as you can find, if this will reach to your ideal spot bury most of it there & let it rootwhilst still supported by the parent, I'm told this ios the italian way ! The prunings can be used for more cuttings inc the outside one. If it won't reach go into a pot.

New one will take 2-3 years from a cutting to a few grapes (my expoerience on several vines, but it varies quite a lot)

Bear in mine many grapes are graftec so this might not do well on its own roots.

[drichard12]

Grapes are very hardy once established, I'm sure a good prune wouldn't hurt yours as it appears to be well established.

Propagation..
The grape should be dominant for propagation and can be done in a number of ways, Ive used 2 methods in propagating, one is in ground the other is container each is different.

I have about a 70% rate per cutting, if your interested drop me a spam free email.

[Mell]

Propagation..
The grape should be dominant for propagation .

Do you mean dormant ?

[The Jones's]

I hope so because I don't want anything else I have to learn about it

I will definitely be back for some more advice in December when it comes to pruning time.