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Your private message box is cluttered and needs a spring clean. 
Time to stop sunbathing and do a bit of weeding of those unwanted PM's.
Anyway.....having had numerous problems with this site today, the summary of what I was trying to say was:
Hi, Chris.
I've tried multiple times to send further messages today and the website keeps crashing.
I can't now remember what I have managed to send to you and what failed, so if I left anything unanswered, drop me another message.
Anyway....in summary I was trying to say:
The basic point was:
Different varieties and different rootstocks have specific growth habits. Some varieties/roots have thick trunks, others have thin trunks.
Some varieties produce lots of closely-spaced branches, others produce a few branches with long "inter-node" distances.
Rootstock and scion can mutually influence each other in terms of growth habit, just as they "average-out" their vigour.
I made a sketch of MM111 v M25, which shows the lightly-built, "twiggy" structure and drooping of the slender branch tips of MM111 (and also masses of fine roots good for finding water).
The M25 has a strong, heavy, solid structure with better anchorage.
Time to stop sunbathing and do a bit of weeding of those unwanted PM's.
Anyway.....having had numerous problems with this site today, the summary of what I was trying to say was:
Hi, Chris.
I've tried multiple times to send further messages today and the website keeps crashing.
I can't now remember what I have managed to send to you and what failed, so if I left anything unanswered, drop me another message.
Anyway....in summary I was trying to say:
The basic point was:
Different varieties and different rootstocks have specific growth habits. Some varieties/roots have thick trunks, others have thin trunks.
Some varieties produce lots of closely-spaced branches, others produce a few branches with long "inter-node" distances.
Rootstock and scion can mutually influence each other in terms of growth habit, just as they "average-out" their vigour.
I made a sketch of MM111 v M25, which shows the lightly-built, "twiggy" structure and drooping of the slender branch tips of MM111 (and also masses of fine roots good for finding water).
The M25 has a strong, heavy, solid structure with better anchorage.
hopefull come November I should have drained your brain enough to be able to get some suitable trees 
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