Tying in canes fruit

[redser]

I feel really dumb asking this but what do people find is the best way? I put up post and wire supports and have been tying in my blackberry/ tayberry and summer raspberries with soft cord. But I find the wind blowing at them makes the knots slip along the wires and everything ends up a tangled mess. The torns are ripping the leaves to bits. I've been tying the cord onto the wire tightly, and then with the loose ends I tie a loop around the canes loosely to allow the canes to grow so they wont get pinched or cut.
What do you use? Was thinking pieces of garden 'twisties' but thought they might cut into the canes.
Thanks a lot

[zazen999]

I don't tie any rasps in but at Ryton they have a long piece of twine, tie it to the post at one end, then pass it round the front of a rasp cane, loop it twice round the wire, then tie the next cane in on the opposite side of the wire, loop it twice round the wire and then back round the front all the way til the end, then tie the other end to the post.

That way, it doesn't slip as it can't!

[Aberdeenplotter]

I feel really dumb asking this but what do people find is the best way? I put up post and wire supports and have been tying in my blackberry/ tayberry and summer raspberries with soft cord. But I find the wind blowing at them makes the knots slip along the wires and everything ends up a tangled mess. The torns are ripping the leaves to bits. I've been tying the cord onto the wire tightly, and then with the loose ends I tie a loop around the canes loosely to allow the canes to grow so they wont get pinched or cut.
What do you use? Was thinking pieces of garden 'twisties' but thought they might cut into the canes.
Thanks a lot

I use old farm polypropylene twine. I knot the twine on to my wire first and then tie a bow knot around each cane to hold it in place. Alternatively, you can use a long length of twine, fix it atone end and wrap around each cane as you come to it,

[redser]

Thanks for the tips!

[ugley_matt]

Best way i found was to make a little bend in the wire, like and s shape and tie it to that. Then it doesnt move down the wire. Seemed to work quite well this year.

[redser]

Brilliant, thanks matt

[kikiger]

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[zazen999]

WOW! The information make me understand. You helped me so much. Thanks for sharing this. It made me understand something, and it is that I never knew before.

Do expand...which bit did you never know before?

[DiggerJ]

Speaking of raspberries! I have found some on my new allotment(had to take pics and get them confirmed as raspberies as I am clueless) now they where obviously old plants, i.e. not newly planted rather than 'old', but only maybe a foot out of the ground. I assume they cleared the allotment before i moved on, possibly with a power strimmer and this is what was left. So...will they be okay for next year or do I dig em out and start again. They look generally healthy. Or do you guys cut them down at the end of the season.