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  • Am I Being Crazy? You Can Be Honest

    So i've had a few days planning, plus some quality time with the family, and now i'm back here to post my list - The List ...

    The list of seeds I have acquired to grow this year. When I started out it didn't seem like that many, but boy oh boy that list seems to have grown.
    Please tell me, as a New Boy, am I being crazy going Big Bang like this, or should I take a selection and hand the rest over to friends or store them?

    I have:
    French Beans (Dwarf) Stanley
    Cabbage Sparkel F1
    Cape Gooseberry
    Pumpkin Orbit F1
    Rosemary
    Mint
    Basil Gecofure
    Cilantro
    Marigold (Dwarf French) Naughty Marietta
    Garlic Sultop Bulbs
    Lettuce Red & Green Mixed
    Tomato Garden Pearl
    Rocket
    Carrot Paris Market 4
    Courgette Sicilian Long White
    Sweetcorn Earlibird F1
    Tomatillo Verde
    Red Perilla (Shiso)
    Winter Savory
    Tomato Red Alert
    Chinese Chives New Belt
    Welsh Onion
    Salad Burnet

    Then I have my seed potatoes
    Epicure First Earlies Potatoes
    Edzell Blue Second Earlies Potatoes

    I am really eager, have lots and lots of containers, i'm making a raised bed area and am prepared for some failures.
    Should I go ahead with that list, or just choose a select few.

    Over to you!
    Iamhanuman

    New Boy & Son Blog My Blog about a new gardener's experiences with his son

    AND PLEASE CHECK OUT MY DEAR WIFE'S BLOG
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  • #2
    Are they all in containers and the raised bed - do you have a greenhouse ?
    1. Pumpkins need a lot of space
    2. Not certain as I don't grow them but would Cape Gooseberries grow and more to the point ripen outside ?
    3.Garden Pearl toms will grow in a hanging basket so that could save you some space.
    Can't really see any other potential problems, though I suppose it depends on how much (or should that be how many) of each you plan to grow.
    As for the tatties -superb choice of second early
    Rat

    British by birth
    Scottish by the Grace of God

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    • #3
      I don't think you're mad - but then I've been growing veg for 4-5 years and my list is about four times as long as yours

      It's sensible to be prepared to have a few failures, but as long as you sow everything at the right time and keep your plants watered and weeded, you should have at least a few successes. Courgettes are fairly idiot-proof, ditto tomatoes (if you don't get blight - and that's no fault of the grower). Herbs, lettuce and carrots are vulnerable to slugs, so it's worth being vigilant on that front.

      As Rat says, the pumpkin needs a lot of space - we're talking a couple of square metres minimum here! - so you might want to hold off on that for now (the seeds will keep until next year, if you keep them cool and dry), or trade the seeds for something a bit more manageable.

      Good luck!

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      • #4
        thanks to you on the sanity judgement
        could i get away with one pumpkin plant and if so how many fruits from the one plant on average?
        i figure i might as well try with all this
        i am just so nervous but then i have everyone here for help and advice along the way
        !!!
        Iamhanuman

        New Boy & Son Blog My Blog about a new gardener's experiences with his son

        AND PLEASE CHECK OUT MY DEAR WIFE'S BLOG
        Independent Minds

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        • #5
          You sound as mad as me this will be my second season and my list is about the same size. Mind you I'll be planting a lot as I'm taking out half a paddock to turn into an 'allotment' secondary to my front garden 'allotment' which is even more scary
          Hayley B

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          • #6
            i have a raised bed being created in our front garden and a load of containers
            Iamhanuman

            New Boy & Son Blog My Blog about a new gardener's experiences with his son

            AND PLEASE CHECK OUT MY DEAR WIFE'S BLOG
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            • #7
              Sow, sow, sow! As long as you don't plant ridiculous amounts of any one thing, I think you'll be fine. I've successfully grown a similar selection (including pumpkins) in a small suburban garden, using lots of containers as well as beds and still leaving room for a bit of lawn for the kids to play on.

              I grew some butternut squash in an old wheelbarrow one year - it was big enough for plenty of soil and high enough to mean the trailing vines didn't trail too far over the ground. Maybe something similar might work for your Orbit F1s?
              I was feeling part of the scenery
              I walked right out of the machinery
              My heart going boom boom boom
              "Hey" he said "Grab your things
              I've come to take you home."

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              • #8
                Personally......I'd ditch the cape gooseberry and tomatillo unless you have a good 18 foot of space as they are both huge plants, and you need 2 of each for decent fertilisation.

                All your salads can be succession sown so that you have them all year round [yes it is possible]. Ditto any spring onions but I can't see any onions at all [are you CRAZY???].

                Marigolds can be grown with toms and brassicas

                Basils can also be grown underneath tomatoes.

                You can grow your pumpkin on your compost heap so that it takes up less growing space.

                I started in containers....and I've put it in here before but I grew 'vege boxes' in those large plastic storage boxes...with beans, peas, toms, spring onions and a courgette all in the same box...pop a marigold in one corner to assist on companion planting and a cane in the middle to support everything and it's chocs away.


                [ETA - think 3 dimensionally...so crops that grow up and be mixed with crops that grow along and also those that grow down. Add in 4 dimensions and plan so that when crops are ending you've always got something to plant in its space]
                Last edited by zazen999; 28-02-2009, 09:32 AM.

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                • #9
                  thanks for the vote of confidence Seahorse!!!
                  i have a large german metal tub which i'm considering for the sweetcorn and the Orbits, plus maybe the beans and courgettes
                  how does that sound??
                  Iamhanuman

                  New Boy & Son Blog My Blog about a new gardener's experiences with his son

                  AND PLEASE CHECK OUT MY DEAR WIFE'S BLOG
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                  • #10
                    With the pumpkin you can either go for one big one or several smaller ones. Personally I just let the plant make up its own mind as to how many. Usually about two or three. Don't see anything wrong with your list except space to grow it all.

                    Ian

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                    • #11
                      Sweetcorn takes up a lot of space and you will generally only get a couple of cobs per plant a metal tub doesn't sound big enough to me
                      Hayley B

                      John Wayne's daughter, Marisa Wayne, will be competing with my Other Half, in the Macmillan 4x4 Challenge (in its 10th year) in March 2011, all sponsorship money goes to Macmillan Cancer Support, please sponsor them at http://www.justgiving.com/Mac4x4TeamDuke'

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                      • #12
                        If your mad so am I. This is my first year growing and I have alist as long as my arm!
                        The way I see it is that if it all goes bottoms up I will know what not to do next year.

                        Just going to do what I can and hope I get something we can eat, if we dont then at least my kids will get a laugh out of it
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Iamhanuman View Post
                          thanks for the vote of confidence Seahorse!!!
                          i have a large german metal tub which i'm considering for the sweetcorn and the Orbits, plus maybe the beans and courgettes
                          how does that sound??
                          Originally posted by HayleyB View Post
                          Sweetcorn takes up a lot of space and you will generally only get a couple of cobs per plant a metal tub doesn't sound big enough to me
                          Depends how big the tub is, I guess and what sort of yield you want.

                          I grew five sweetcorn in a tub about 60cm diameter and about the same deep. Probably not the easiest or most efficient way of growing them but the experience of standing next to the plant with the kids and eating a fresh cob each? Priceless
                          I was feeling part of the scenery
                          I walked right out of the machinery
                          My heart going boom boom boom
                          "Hey" he said "Grab your things
                          I've come to take you home."

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                          • #14
                            You should see the list of seeds I need to plant this year. However, with age has conme a little wisdom - I'm beginning to realise that you don't need to sow everything every year! I want to sow so many varieties of some things - peas, beans, toms, greens, that I can't possibly fit them all in. I'm making them queue up and take turns now!
                            Whoever plants a garden believes in the future.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Seahorse View Post
                              Depends how big the tub is, I guess and what sort of yield you want.

                              I grew five sweetcorn in a tub about 60cm diameter and about the same deep. Probably not the easiest or most efficient way of growing them but the experience of standing next to the plant with the kids and eating a fresh cob each? Priceless
                              The tub I have is about that diameter but only maybe 45cm deep. i was thinking 5 plants too, in a block formation.
                              Beans and maybe courgette in there too to climb up
                              My wife and son are growing sunflowers so I was thinking of putting those in pots next to the tub.
                              Might stick the pumpkin on the compost heap after that lovely comment!
                              Iamhanuman

                              New Boy & Son Blog My Blog about a new gardener's experiences with his son

                              AND PLEASE CHECK OUT MY DEAR WIFE'S BLOG
                              Independent Minds

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