Starting a veg patch on thick grass...

[basketcase]

[QUOTE=Two_Sheds;536507]I'd always have something growing, given the choice; and I reduce my use of plastics to the bare minimum. (reducing my dependency on oil is more important to me than being "organic"; and trying not to buy something that will end up in landfill)

Some green manures aren't easy to dig in ... Ryegrass was a nightmare, so I stick to Limnanthes now.QUOTE]

When I was clearing the junk heap at the back of my plot, I dug up 2 enormous sheets of black plastic. So I can cover my beds with a clear conscience becuase I'm keeping it out of landfill by re-using it!

TS, where do you get big bags of Limnathes for use as green manure, rather than a bedding plant? I can only find tiddly ones. Or do you broadcast a packet and keep collecting the seeds?

[Two_Sheds]

TS, where do you get big bags of Limnathes for use as green manure, rather than a bedding plant?

I save my own seed (or rather, I let them seed themselves, then I transplant the seedlings in October)

[basketcase]

I save my own seed (or rather, I let them seed themselves, then I transplant the seedlings in October)

So I'll have to start small then!

[Snadger]

I save my own seed (or rather, I let them seed themselves, then I transplant the seedlings in October)

Do the recently transplanted plants overwinter and stay green TS? What I'm basically asking is, are they frost hardy?

If so, I may sow some soon!

[Two_Sheds]

yes Snadge, they are... however, we don't get hard frosts here until Feb. You may need to transplant them a bit earlier if you are much colder than me

[Lavenderblue]

Having dealt with a hugely overgrown allotment myself (see early pictures in the blog) I personally would glyphosate it (if you can still buy it) cover it and dig it bit by bit.

[Two_Sheds]

If you glyphosate it, you don't need to cover it as well (but you will still have to dig out the tough old roots of brambles and nettles before you can plant.)
Either or will do the job (although glypho does not kill all the roots, and some will grow back.)