Vitis vinifera grape help please

[Andrew0109]

Iv just brought this plant and need advice on soil type,brand etc, what feed, and general care ill be growing in a large container and thanks for any assistance.

[greenishfing]

Are you growing it indoors or outdoors? Why in a pot?

[Vince G]

blimey, grapes on it when you bought it?! We've got a vine, in the corner of the patio. It's up against a south facing wall so gets plenty of heat. Produces loads of lovely foliage to hide an ugly corner but despite reading up extensively on viticulture, iv'e only got it to produce pea-sized grapes about every other year for 6 years. Maybe you might have better luck in a container.

It's had its final public warning, so if it doesn't produce this year (which so far is not looking likely), it's being wrestled out and something like a kiwi is going in in its place.

Good luck!

[Andrew0109]

I dont have a garden so a pot will have to do and im growing it outside what soil do i put it in

[Urban]

Normal mpc should be fine, just need to make sure it has good drainage

[greenishfing]

My husband bought a vitis vitifera grapevine in Morrisons four years ago and I put it in the greenhouse. It had grapes on when he bought it (like yours) but when they ripened I discovered that they were small graped with big pips. I decided I didn't want to give it greenhouse space so dug it up in the dead of winter. the roots had spread under all the greenhouse. i replanted it against the side of my shed (facing south-west) with some of it's roots intact and replaced it in the greenhouse with a Black Hamburg vine. I've got an ancient gardening book that I follow for advice on growing them. If you're growing it in a pot give it as large a pot as possible and plant it somewhere sheltered from the worst winds. They like free-draining soil but mine grows in heavy clay. It says to put some builders rubble in the ariginal planting hole. I give mine a top dressing of manure and fish blood and bone in January and then feed it weekly once the fruit has set. I cut it back weekly in summer (green shoots only) or it would pull the shed down and restrict the grapes to one bunch per linear foot.

[Andrew0109]

so can i put it in a large pot and leave it somewhere from strong winds and feed it at correct times and water it and just leave nature to do its business im not worried too much about pips as this plant iv never done before so its an experiment. thanks for the replies.

[greenishfing]

Give it a go. You won't have to worry about pruning until dead of winter. If you've got a greenhouse or conservatory to put it in you can have a hardwood cutting from the black hamburgh next winter as well.

[Marcher]

I have mine near the house, up against a fence. Mine's in a large pot and growing up a trellis. It's outgrown the trellis though so I just got some metal wire and trained it further on that. I bought it from a garden centre and it was just great to see the look on everyone's face when they thought I'd brought a collection of dead twigs - a bit of growmore and it shot up in a matter of days (grape vines can grow very quickly if they're fertilised with a lot of nitrogen - only fertilise with a lot of that whilst its still young to build it up a bit. It is phosphorous and potassium that are important when it is fruiting, so probably feed it with tomato or strawberry liquid fertiliser).

It's surprising to see grapes on such a young plant though. Mine has grapes but they won't develop yet. I don't think grape vines usually bear fruit until they're three years old and I'm guessing mine is one or two.

I also have another one about the same size as yours which I bought from a supermarket quite cheap. Unfortunately it didn't say the variety, will take years to bear fruit and I didn't want to buy another trellis. So I've started training it up a wire to climb up a porch.
It's in partial shade much of the day so will be no good for fruit until it reaches the top of the porch which is always in full sun. I'm growing that one as an ornamental - ripe fruit would just be a bonus.

[Andrew wakeman]

Im andrew0109 i had to change my account, this plant got nicked by someone.

[veggiechicken]

The plant was nicked, or your name?

[Feral007]

Must have looked good or they wouldn't have bothered nicking it. Hard to believe what some people will do isn't it?

[Blackwoofers]

Parra vigne vitis viniera vine

I have a grape vine as the heading states I have about5 massive grape clusters with large grapes but they are bitter. Do I have to feed them or is this a bitter grape to start with

[rustylady]

Hi Blackwoofers, I've never heard of this particular variety and Google has been no help either.

Whereabouts are you, and is there another name for it?