Identification advice please?! Pink / red furry stem??

[kt6382]

Hi, I've spotted a lot of seedlings spread over my dads garden. I need some help identifying them before I dig them up to use (for a freinds garden and maybe as an indoor plant?!).
They have come from a small tree he cut down earlier this year. It was onyl about 8-10feet tall. Had a pinky red furry stem / trunk. Fronds of leaves, long, narrow, serrated leaves. Has obvisouly seeded itself around. I think I remember it having bulbous dark maroon fruit / cones?!

Anyway, here is a couple of pictures of the seedlings, any ideas?! (hope the pictures work?!)

[mothhawk]

Sumac?

[kt6382]

Sumac?

WOW! That was quick!!! and YES I think that's exactly it!! I thought it was some obscure thing no-one would have heard of!? Thank you! ... Now I need to research a little more about it before I start replanting....

[mothhawk]

You gave a very clear description kt

If the tree was cut down, it's more likely the new plants are growing from the roots of the old tree. It suckers (pops up new plants from any point where the roots are near the surface) easily. Best way to deal with them is pull, snap or cut them off.

[veggiechicken]

I agree - Sumac. It spreads everywhere - underground!! Can be invasive.
Don't think its suited to being a pot plant on someone's window sill

[mothhawk]

^^^ beat me to it saying that VC - I was just editing to add...

[kt6382]

Ha! I thought I'd given a useless random description and u'd all ask 4more info!
Hmm so no good 4a pot plant &I don't want it in my own garden if its invasive &hs rhizomes cz prob poisonous to pets too. Wonder whether it would still b ok 4my friends garden? She is trying to fill her garden as it had been empty&dead since she moved in about 5 years ago. It was a new build so think the ground is just rubbish. So I was thinking easy to grow stuff&stuff tht survives in my garden (only live down the road).

Thanks 4 identifying! &I'll let my dad know about the invasive spreading roots as it's all around his veg patches!

[veggiechicken]

This is what you have RHS Plant Selector Rhus typhina / RHS Gardening I have one too - but am trying to keep it in check!!

[mothhawk]

Now it's odd that the RHS say all parts are poisonous, 'cos native Americans used to make a drink from the ripe berry cones and some Americans still do
countryside - homesteading - self-reliance - simple life

[Nicos]

Is this the spice 'Sumac' which I buy from Arabic stores here ( a ground red berry)?
....it has a lemony flavour???

I thought it only thrived in desert conditions? .....perhaps it's something else???

[veggiechicken]

Does this help Nicos? Makes it sound like the same plant!! Get To Know: Ground Sumac Spice | Aida Mollenkamp

[mothhawk]

Is this the spice 'Sumac' which I buy from Arabic stores here ( a ground red berry)?
....it has a lemony flavour???

I thought it only thrived in desert conditions? .....perhaps it's something else???

Yes it is.

[Nicos]

Oh- yum!!! ...sounds like the same plant!!!

I first came across it in the '80's when I was given the powder from a middle eastern Dr. It was really hard to find in the UK as the bushes grew in the desert between Iran and Iraq and it was too dangerous to pick the berries during the war.

Looks like it's much easier to buy the powder these days.
Superb as a lemon substitute!


I'm now wondering where I can buy a plant of my own from!!

[veggiechicken]

I'm now wondering where I can buy a plant of my own from!!

I'm sure kt6382's dad could find you some

[kt6382]

Ha! Yeh, my dad has loads!!! Would say you could have some seedlngs but looks like you're in Francais!?