Eggs are good for you - again

[Sue]

Terry, I see on another thread that you have problems with high chloresterol and can only eat a restricted amount of eggs - have you seen any of the recent information on diet that's coming out regarding low-fat diets and chloresterol?
Its a complete about-turn, eggs are good chloresterol apparently, it was a complete mistake to include them as a restricted food and low-fat diets are now being labelled as harmful
Animal fats, ie butter, milk and eggs as well as meat are now being looked on as good for you, with little link between heart disease and fat intake.
Looks like its goodbye Flora, it does you more harm than butter ever will.
I think the only diet advice I've seen and agree with is eat well, eat more plants and don't eat anything processed.
Just as well, since I've had hens they've produced nearly 400 eggs and I've given a lot away but many of those eggs have ended up in my tummy!

Sue

[yoanbob]

sue i'm with you, marg is bad! If your an infantry gent and realying on very few calories to do very phisical work then go marg! however if you've a normal job and can eat three meals a day marg is bad! your body cant digest it and WONT digest it till its the only sorce of fat left on your bones before death, It takes alomost as many calories to convert it back into energy as it gave you in the first place, as for eggs, if you eat a diet that we have evolved to eat i.e. meat once a week, fish twice and mushroom and egg protien on the other days, eggs are good for you, if you eat meat twice a day then eating more than two eggs a week will be harmfull but its not the eggs that are bad its the meat.
so remember vegie lunch and two to three vegie dinner a week and you can eat as many eggs as you want

[Snadger]

Never had butter until I was married, never had margarine since!

[Two_Sheds]

Interesting theories. Could you quote some research, or post a link to support your theories...? I'd like to look into it further, having an OH with potential heart problems ...

[mrs potato head]

sue i'm with you, marg is bad! If your an infantry gent and realying on very few calories to do very phisical work then go marg! however if you've a normal job and can eat three meals a day marg is bad! your body cant digest it and WONT digest it till its the only sorce of fat left on your bones before death, It takes alomost as many calories to convert it back into energy as it gave you in the first place, as for eggs, if you eat a diet that we have evolved to eat i.e. meat once a week, fish twice and mushroom and egg protien on the other days, eggs are good for you, if you eat meat twice a day then eating more than two eggs a week will be harmfull but its not the eggs that are bad its the meat.
so remember vegie lunch and two to three vegie dinner a week and you can eat as many eggs as you want

I Disagree that Meat is bad for you, but i do agreed with moderating how much you eat a week. By doing this you can probaly also so inprove the quality of the meat you are buying. Locally breed. Organic.
Marg is BAD. As are 'processed' foods in general.
I support a theory of moderation, and naturally produced food goods.
It might be a bit old fashioned, but it works for me.

[witch-1]

http://health.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=108677

This is one article that confirms this news.

I have always had butter - don't like marg! And as said, all things in moderation - and less of the processed foods! I'm not a good one to talk about eating habits though after reaching a grand weight, I've had weight loss surgery... but consider myself a bit of an eggspurt on diets etc.

Good wholesome and natural produce will always be best.

Now I'm getting approx 2 eggs a day from my 3 chickens (not sure why no.3 bird won't lay!!) I'm eating more eggs than I used to... and they are delicious
Jan

[yoanbob]

two sheds i pmed you.
mrs potatohead i didnt mean that meat was bad only that any sort of protien in huge amounts is bad, also that the scorces of protien are important, the more varied the better.

[Sue]

Hi
The books I've been reading are
Gary Taubes The Diet Delusion Ebury Press £17.99 published January 2008
Michael Pollen In Defense of Food Allen Lane £18.99 published February 2008
Nancy Deville Death by Supermarket Barricade Books £10.99 published February 2008
Sorry, work as a reviewer and forgot these weren't out yet.
All three authors are writing about a similar subject, the shakiness of scientific "proof" on diet and links with heart disease etc. The relationship between government and big business (all are US titles which is where the dietary advice came from in the first place) the role of the manufacturors and supermarkets, fast food providers etc.

It seems that the dietary advice from government was watered down and changed due to pressure from big business, then the low-fat advice that came out was seized upon and amount of artificial food on the market went through the roof. Not surprisingly there is more profit to be made on artificial food that flogging an apple or potato. Then the artificial food to stay lowfat pumped the products full of carbohydrates and this is supposedly at the root of the obesity crisis.

Michael Pollen came up with a lovely piece of advice - don't buy anything with a health claim on it and don't buy any food your grandmother wouldn't recognise.
Sue

[yoanbob]

anything with e numbers or coulors is bad! even acsorbic acid is bad its manafactured lemon juice that has never seen a lemon, if you dont know what it is dont buy it!
in australia goverment advice is minimum of 8 portion of fruit and veg a day!
my advice is have a VARIED balanced diet, have at least 3 coulors on your plate and make everything from scratch!

[TPeers]

What would you rather give your kids....

Sugar.... and make sure they brush their teeth

or

a known carcinogen! Artificial sweeteners are my absolute bug bear! They are not 'good', useful possibly.

Thanks for the info on eggs Sue, very interesting! I've been working on the standard principle that a LITTLE of what you fancy will do you good - I just have problems with the 'little'

I try to minimise red meat, maximise fish and twist the OH's arm to get the occasional veggy supper! He is very much the red meat and veg if I must type! Improved over 14 years - but boy, it's hard work!

Terry

[Two_Sheds]

Just like to say, thanks for the debate, as always.

I like my food straight from the ground, just a dash of chili sauce, that'll do me. But everyone else around me wants "proper" meals, meaning gourmet/ready meal or anything in between. I can't understand why we have evolved to dislike the taste of "pure" unadulterated food - it really frustrates me. I bring home bags of fresh organic veg to rot in the fridge! Some of it gets made into freezer food (healthy ready meals) but OH prefers cheese, sausages, bacon, kebabs. It drives me nuts. BTW, I'm not crowing, but he is 2 stone overweight, and I am the same weight I was in 1985; but I can't get him to equate what he eats with what he weighs! aaarggh!

[scared55]

... and none of these authors has an agenda or an axe to grind, of course.

KK

[mrs potato head]

two sheds i pmed you.
mrs potatohead i didnt mean that meat was bad only that any sort of protien in huge amounts is bad, also that the scorces of protien are important, the more varied the better.

I understand what you ment. I agree with you, sorry i my reply came over wrongly.
Cheers for reply though.
Leisa

[Sue]

What did make me shake my head reading those books, was that all three advise home cooking (from the allotment/garden as well!) Now if you don't cook, can't cook, haven't ever gardened, are you likely to start from scratch, it would be very daunting.

I cook everything I possibly can to enable me to eat as little "industrial" food as possible, but boy it's hard work - and on top of the allotment and with a job, pretty full time and precious little time to sleep or do anything else. You have to get good at batch cooking, learn to cook from what you have instead of finding the recipe and sourcing the ingredients and you need to shop locally, I love doing it, but it's more work and time and on top of this learn to manage with seasonal foods.

I don't see Macdonalds or KFC going out of business anytime soon, mores the pity

Sue

[Paulottie]

I entirely agree with you Sue. Its very time consuming; But its so worthwhile. It is all so much part of my life now. You definitely get into a rhythm with it all.


Glad about the butter and eggs too!