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    I know it's early days as we rescued our girls only yesterday, but they made such a good job of getting themselves up. We opened the pop hole at first light, and Ginger (the biggest bravest one with most feathers) who's obviously going to be top of the pecking order came half way down the ramp about two hours later and jumped the rest. Clarissa, who has next most feathers, stood at the top of the ramp and jumped off, hurting her foot in the process and she's been holding it in the air for much of the day. She walks on it, but only reluctantly. Those two were followed several hours later by the semi-featherless but very hungry Attilla the Hen and Hopsy (Hopsy already had a bruised leg as a result of her journey from the battery hell-hole to home). We didn't see them come down, but they seem fine. The ramp has a fairly wide standing platform outside the chook house, bu then a 90 degree turn to get down to ground level. I'm wondering if that's the problem.

    They had a good day, and everyone has eaten and drunk themselves silly, not to mention having made dust baths (really! on day 2!) and made lots of contented clucking noises.

    They had been peering up at the coop all day, so we left it until dusk hoping at least one of them might put themselves to bed. Ginger got half way up the ramp, then gave up, jumped down and made a nest in the corner of the run. Nobody else even attempted to put themselves to bed, so eventually we went out there and helped them. By then they were very stressed, and everyone except Ginger had congregated by the gate where we come in and out. We physically walked them up the ramp, as we did last night, and as soon as they saw the inside of the coop they all scooted off and settled down.

    My worry is that because we both work full time and the clocks go back in a couple of weeks, even if we bolt out of work at 5pm we'll have very stressed chooks by the time we get home. We're complete beginners and have never kept hens before, any advice on how to train them to go to bed would be much appreciated.
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    I think it's just a case of showing them where they are meant to go for a few nights. Ours still don't quite understand the whole ladder concept yet (it's only day 2 as well), but the breeder (feel a wee bit guilty they are not ex bats!) said if we show them where to go for a few nights they will eventually get the hint and put themselves to bed.

    It does seem to be working, last night it was stressful...having to catch them and walk them up, but tonight they just hopped in to our arms...I sat them on the bottom step, and they hopped the rest all by themselves. Of course they were praised to the hilt when they did it, and they all look rather chuffed with themselves.

    So, I'd just keep on showing them...until they get it, which if mine are anything to go by...won't be long!

    I'm sure someone else will give you better advice shortly.
    Last edited by Bephlam; 12-10-2008, 08:04 PM. Reason: D'uh!!
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    • #3
      Although ours are not ex-battery, they have lived in a shed with no outdoors so our little ark and small patch of green/sun/rain/fog etc is totally new. Last night they popped into the house by themselves - no ladder to negotiate as their home is an adapted sideboard (well, I think it might be the bottom of an old Welsh dresser) but tonight (nice afternoon) Flymo (Madmax's hen) decided that the corner of the run was suitable for roosting a gentle prod with the bamboo cane we use to make the pophole door slide down soon sent her through the pophole and all was done!

      I think they will learn quite quickly - at least they learned how to come out and that took a lot of courage. Perhaps they are reluctant to go back in in case they are shut in there again like their previous life?
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Bephlam View Post
        I think it's just a case of showing them where they are meant to go for a few nights. Ours still don't quite understand the whole ladder concept yet (it's only day 2 as well), but the breeder (feel a wee bit guilty they are not ex bats!) said if we show them where to go for a few nights they will eventually get the hint and put themselves to bed.
        Don't feel guilty Bephlam. Someone on a poultry forum I've been reading regularly asked whether they should go in at the deep end with ex-battery hens or get their hand in, so to speak, with a few 'normal' hens first. Heck, what's normal for a hen, they are all barmy! All but one advised them to keep some hens first then go for ex-batts when they were able to recognise normal hen behaviour. I know lots of people do go straight for ex battery hens and they are so rewarding too. I'm still teetering on the brink and don't know whether to build up my confidence first. It's academic at the moment though. Several months worth of work to do on OUR house before we start the hen house so it will definitely be spring before we get any.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Flummery View Post
          whether they should go in at the deep end with ex-battery hens or get their hand in, so to speak, with a few 'normal' hens first.
          That was my plan initially Flummery...I really didn't feel experience enough to care for these little fragile girls, so I firgured if I got some 'normal', healthy chickens first I would be better equipped at a later date to really care for the ex bats!

          I ended up with faverolles because I specified I wanted a docile, friendly breed...and they suggested these little girls. Thankfully I met a really great guy off another forum who bred them and was able to give me these three. He has been superb as well...answering all sorts of questions at all sorts of hours! It's most definitely true that they are docile - only had them two days and they are already sitting on our laps and eating out our hands. It's grrrreat!!!

          This is addictive though, so I have no doubts I'll be giving a home to ex bats at some point in the not so distant future! Might even need to buy ourselves a bigger cottage!!...don't know how my OH would feel about moving to accomodate a chicken habit!....
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          • #6
            Hashette, it's possible that the ex bats are not strong enough yet to get up the ramp as they won't have had to do any climbing before and the ones with the poorly legs probably won't even try for a while. We've had our ex bats for a few months now and I still have to go out with a torch after dark to check there's no stragglers. Sometimes the all take themselves off to bed and sometimes they don't, but they are now used to being picked up and put in the chicken house. Just be patient with them.
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            • #7
              Hi Hashette, we started with our hen house on the ground and a low ramp as BHWT said ex-batts bones are very fragile. It took about a week to put themselves to bed. OH then raised the house so we could put dust bath underneath to keep it dry. We have only had one night when one of the girls decided to try camping.Only realised when we found her in the garden in the morning and the others were still locked up. Won't make that mistake again. We count them once settled now.

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              • #8
                I have had my second lot of ex batts since july and still have problems getting them to bed! It seems like they dont want to be locked away scared that they wont come out again i suppose. I take a torch in after dark and have a count up as trying to persuade 12 new girls to go to bed it hard work

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                • #9
                  I must be lucky with the bedtime thing then. My girls are all settled by 6.45pm. (It was 9.30pm when I first got them)

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                  • #10
                    hi

                    i had the same problem 2 weeks ago with mine. would not go up ramp, found small one trying to roost behind holly bush as not sure where to sleep as couldnt get up, now they do a kind of hop/fly thing into the pop hole, pop hole is good size so seem to suit them, they usually find a way, once they know where they are going and they will probably follow each other when one gets the knack.

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                    • #11
                      Thanks everyone. The other thing we thought is that the ramp may not be wide enough, so hubby is currently constructing at new one that's over a foot wide. He thought my suggestion of Stansted-style runway lights was OTT though
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                      • #12
                        Woohoo...our girls just managed to put themselves to bed!!! I'm so proud of them - that's day 3, so I'm sure your girls will learn soon!!!
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                        • #13
                          Blimey Bephlam that's brillant! Ginger managed to put herself to bed when we hung a light over the doorway, but the other three just stood near the gate again so we lifted them in. Early days yet, though.

                          Hubby's re-built the ramp and made it over a foot wide, so let's see what difference that makes tomorrow
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                          • #14
                            I personally don't see what the problem would have been with the landing strip...lights...the works!

                            If it works for Heathrow why can't it work for the girls?
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                            • #15
                              When I first got mine I was advised to keep them in for the first night, ie not let them straight out in run, but close them in shed with food and water.
                              a) to give them a chance to rest after the stress of the rescue, travelling etc
                              b) so that they realise where 'home' is at bedtime
                              Has mostly worked for me with ex-bats, but hens from breeders that I have had in the past were a bit more independent minded!
                              Kirsty b xx

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