Korma poop after treatment

[Graham K]

My three hens have all been treated with Flubenvet 1% as they all had "korma poop" when I first got them (reputable dealer with lots of good help and advice). Two of the three are fine and growing well but one (no surprise) the smallest is still pooping "korma".

I followed the Flubenvet instructions to the letter and the second dose was finished about a week ago.

I read somewhere that you can double dose flubenvet, has anyone tried this?

I've only been feeding growers pellets and a small handful of chicken corn (in the late afternoon) the other two have thrived on it. They are all about 18/19 weeks old now and I'm looking to switch to layers pellets soon, so I want to be sure they are all fit "before" they start laying.

Any help or advice will be most welcome.

Graham K.

Attached should be "the girls first venture out".

[shirlthegirl43]

This thread .. http://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gra...poo_39475.html has a link to a useful page re chook poop. Hope it helps.

Have your girls dug up all your lovely tulips yet

[Graham K]

Totaly gross!

Saved to favorites for future ref'.

Thanks,

Graham K.

[Polly Fouracre]

If you use Flubenvet don't for Heaven sake put the droppings in your compost heap/bin!!It will kill all the earthworms. Better to use Verm-X and keep Flubenvet as a last resort!

[Graham K]

I haven't put anything in the compost yet, there's just too much "korma".

I've read about the every "however many" days you get a korma poop but the little one seems to be doing it all the time.

She doesn't seem to be too bothered by it although she is a fair bit smaller than her sisters (they're supposed to be sisters?) and I'm pretty sure she is eating OK, it goes in it comes out?

The other worry I have is re-infection of the others (if it is worms or something else) as they are in the coop most of the time and tend to stand/walk in the korma just after it's been deposited!

[di]

If you use Flubenvet don't for Heaven sake put the droppings in your compost heap/bin!!It will kill all the earthworms. Better to use Verm-X and keep Flubenvet as a last resort!

OMG....I'd never even thought of that!
How long does it stay potent,do you nkow?

[MaureenHall]

Flubenvet is one of those medications that needs to be given every day for a week regardless of how the poo is looking. There's no egg withdrawal and it's the best thing to de-worm the girls Needs to be done at least twice but preferably 3 or 4 times a year

[RichmondHens]

I have to say Polly's post took me by surprise. I have never noticed earthworms dying in my compost heaps (and there is masses of poo on there). I know there has been problems with cattle wormers in the past, but to my knowledge the wormer does not kill the earthworms or other insects, just makes it unpalatable and therefore it does not get broken down as quickly.

Graham - are you sure that what you are seeing isn't just caecal poo? Chickens do two types of poo - the firm greeny brown ones with white urates (chickens don't wee) and "korma" coloured foamy poo, which comes from a different part of the intestine. About one in 10 poos are caecal ones and it is perfectly normal. Poos vary in colour depending on what the birds are eating. You only have to worry when the birds pass consistently runny poos and have mucky bums. A healthy bird should have a nice fluffy bottom with no "clag", as we refer to it here.

[Graham K]

They all definately have fluffy bums. not that I'm in to that sort of thing, no "clag" at all. Overall they are a very clean bunch.

I'm just a bit unsure as it's the same one all the time (they have coloured leg rings) and she is a fair bit smaller than the others, I'll try and keep an eye on how often she goes but I'm sure it's more than "normal"!

[Graham K]

Hi Richmondhens,

Is that one in ten poops, or one in ten days. At the rate my lot are going they would all be leaving korma at least once a day.

Is there any way of "training" them to poop in a certain area? Most of the time they either go in the roost area (at night) or the coop (in the day) but they have been leaving a fair sized pile in just one of the nest boxes lately, they shouldn't be too far off laying so I want to "try" and keep the nests clean if poss', any ideas from those with a bit more knowledge than me?

Graham K.

[RichmondHens]

Graham, it's one in ten poos! Chickens can produce up to 30 poos a day - most of them should be nice and solid, but one in ten is a caecal foamy one.

No you cannot train them to poo in a certain place. Chickens continuously poo, day and night, but what you can do is not allow them to sleep in the nestbox. It is a bad habit which if left can sometimes be hard to break. You need to wait till they have gone to bed then go and remove them from the nestbox and place them on the perches instead. You will have to do this for several nights in a row before they get the message but persevere. You don't want to be cleaning out the nestbox every morning and no-one wants pooey eggs. It will not put them off laying their eggs in there. They will soon learn that the nestbox is where they lay and the roost is where they sleep. It just takes a bit of training. I am quite firm with any of mine that try this trick and they get a sharp shove out if I find one in there at shutting up time.

[Polly Fouracre]

I have to say Polly's post took me by surprise. I have never noticed earthworms dying in my compost heaps (and there is masses of poo on there). I know there has been problems with cattle wormers in the past, but to my knowledge the wormer does not kill the earthworms or other insects, just makes it unpalatable and therefore it does not get broken down as quickly.

Graham - are you sure that what you are seeing isn't just caecal poo? Chickens do two types of poo - the firm greeny brown ones with white urates (chickens don't wee) and "korma" coloured foamy poo, which comes from a different part of the intestine. About one in 10 poos are caecal ones and it is perfectly normal. Poos vary in colour depending on what the birds are eating. You only have to worry when the birds pass consistently runny poos and have mucky bums. A healthy bird should have a nice fluffy bottom with no "clag", as we refer to it here.

My nephew and I both used Fluvenvet on our flocks and both found a few weeks later that all the worms in our composters had died. We could only assume it was the worm treatment.
I hope Mr. Jones is behaving and doing his stuff for you

My nephew and I both used

[RichmondHens]

Hi Polly, Mr Jones is very well thanks. However, after the sparring with the LS cock where he got flipped over a bit, he then decided to up the ante and beat up the LS big time! I separated them and he's now had enough time to cover all the girls himself so I'm doing a fertility test to see if he's doing the deed. He's got quite full of himself since having the girls to himself but fortunately is not being aggressive to me.

[frias]

I use Flubenvet and have never noticed any of the worms in the compost bins dying. I've got hundreds in my compost bins. I thought the Flubenvet was supposed to kill the parasite worms not the hosts.