Urgent please help

[Munch]

They'll move away from the lamp if they're too warm, Munch. If you run out of Crumb, you can always mash your Layer/Grower Pellets with warm water to make a mash. They should respond well to scrambled egg though!

Scambled eggs on its way xx

[Suechooks]

Sorry Munch have been out and about all day - there's no PM come through. You've done all the right things and as Hilary has said if they're cold they need warming up.
Are they drinking? Maybe a couple of drops of Rescue Remedy all round.
As eveyone's said its probably shock and whatever the predator was has tried to get them as well. Chickens do go into shock when attacked.
A bit of scrambled/boiled egg mashed, yoghurt, and maybe some poultry spice. Anything they'll eat really to give them a boost.
Can you take some of them to the vet tomorow? The one with foaming eye sounds poorly - any rattly chest/breathing noises?
I do hope they pick up. x

[Munch]

Thanks Sue.

The foaming eye has gone completely, maybe a reaction to shock. I know the predator didnt try getting
to them as their run is unscathed. However the attak happened all around them and they are the smallest we have.

They have had had warm chick crumb and scrambled egg. 2 are touch and go but the other 2want to escape the box in are room! could be an intersteing night!

[RichmondHens]

Hi Munch - Sorry, I have been out all day. Didn't get a PM though. What a horrible day you've had. I can only agree with what others have said, it does sound like shock and keeping them warm is the best thing you can do. They may not want to eat anything and at this stage don't worry about food too much. It's now dark so they are best left to sleep undisturbed until morning when you can try and tempt them with a little something. Also make sure they have a drink.

The foamy eye is a symptom of myco, which can be brought on by stress, so keep a close watch on all the birds. If it reappears, or other respiratory issues arise then I would advise getting some Tylan from the vet.

Let us know how they are in the morning.

[baldrick]

Sorry Munch I was asleep recovering from horrible snotty baby. The chook with the foamy eye needs to go to the vet if there are any sneezy or wheezy noises or especially any snotty discharges. Dont like the sound of the "purring" noise either. Dormant resp infections can be reactivated after trauma or shock apparently, which is why Im being so careful to tell potential rehomers about my now healthy cockerel's past history. Im so very sorry to hear about your day from hell. As others have said its probably shock. I know when my silkies had myco they went from healthy to almost dead in a couple of days, they felt thin but not cold. If anything they felt too hot. When I have a poorly wild bird I keep them warm and dark for an hour or two, just dip the beak like with a chick but leave no food or water with them. Later put them in a dim draught free place in a covered cat basket or cage and be very very careful they cant collapse with their head in food and water when I move them to a hospital cage. Touch wood Ive not had a seriously injured chook or a fox survivor..yet. God willing I wont. Lots of hugs your way. xxx
ps no pm here either? x

[Suechooks]

How are they all this morning Munch?

[Munch]

Thank you so much for responding, go only knows where your PM's went!

I am sad to report that, even tho the 2 poorlier cock Sebrights started to perk up they didnt make it to midnight.

The other 2 seem fairly normal, eating drinking and trying to jump from the box when I lift the white sheet covering them, however, maybe paranoia, they do still feel a little cold.

I think I may evict my 4 week old chicks from the brooder cage in the kitchen to the rabbit hutch and pop them in there for a couple of days.

We do need to sort out a red mite problem (again) in their coop, resilient buggers are in a coop that was creosoted a month ago.

The Pekins (including the one that had a dodgey eye) all look, and sound normal this morning, I have let them out into a small run on there own for the time being.

I have barely slept! It was like have a new born in the bedroom, I would lay there listening for a noise, make a cough noise.... and... phew... cheep cheep!!

Thanks again for all the help and support yesterday, you are a fab bunch xxx

[Munch]

I do have one problem now, we have a pair of Sebrights in the next auction, we were going to keep the 2 remaining cocks with the possibility of breed from them next year.

The 2 cocks have died leaving us with the pair for auction, I dont know whether to withdraw them and keep them, after all we did have an emotional day together yesterday! or allow them to go baring in mind they are obviously tricky birds to keep!

[Munch]

Awww, I have just found these pics and thought I may share them with you.

One of the Sebrights being cheeking in the lounge and our Little Munch with her much loved Pepper.....

Quite sad really you can see how they grew together!

[RichmondHens]

Sweet pics. Sorry to hear the boys died.

Depending on when the auction is you may need to withdraw the surviving pair anyway if they have not recovered from their fright yesterday. It would be unfair to put an already stressed bird into an auction which will stress them further. But if they seem happy enough then go ahead and send them, or keep them, it's up to you. Toss a coin - heads they go, tails they stay!!

[Munch]

The Auction is next weekend

I am urging towards keeping them at the moment....

[VirginVegGrower]

I vote KEEP THEM and write a blog - like the Tamworth Two only the Sebright Survivors. You might make a fortune!
Sorry you lost the boys, I had mistakenly assumed all had survived.

[VirginVegGrower]

Is it just me or has the like button disappeared from last two posts?!

[its hilly]

Just come online and seen this..
Ooof Munch, what a horrible thing to happen. Having had a visit last year from fox, he got into one run and killed three, but couldn't get through into the weldmesh pen next door. However they did the same as yours. Almost motionless, very hunched and cold, not eating. Shock.
And chooks can go from healthy to dead in a matter of a day I've found. Personally I would lift the heat lamp away a bit, then again the next day. Let them get used to the cold again as if they were youngsters coming off heat rather than kick your 4 weekers out of the brooder, they are a bit young yet considering the colder weather. Once the poorlys are eating well they should be ok outside, could you put them out in the hutch during the day and inside at night? Just a few days.
As for the auction..If it were me I would still send them unless you are mad keen on the breed. It's very easy to let emotion overcome your original plans, but not wise really.
And redmite is a real pain to get rid of, so don't be surprised. You need to get creosote into every single tiny crevice to kill them all. Now you've done that try using Smite or similar to spray again, and use diatom powder, puffed round the coop. You can powder the birds too if you like. As others will also tell you redmite live in the coop and only get onto the birds to feed..but..diatomacious (dont laugh I can't spell it, ok?) powder/earth gets under the mites hard surface to kill them, if it's on the birds it will kill any that get on, also chicken lice etc. Just cover their heads or be really careful when powdering birds, you dont want them breathing it in or getting it in their eyes.
Good luck

[Munch]

Thanks again everyone.

The 4 weeks olds in the brooder are all fully feathered (actually they maybe 5 weeks now) and have been off heat for a week, they were going to go into the hutch soon any way, the Hubbard and the biggest Orpington, from the same hatch have been in the hutch for a week already. Its a big double leveled hutch just outside the kitchen window in the back yard so quite well protected from the elements. We tend you use it as a sort of cold frame for chicks! Harden them off a bit more before throwing them to the real element of the chickenary at the bottom of the garden

The Sebrights seem to all of a sudden love me very much, as if they know I have saved them! They were not that tame before!

We were always going to keep 2 sebrights anyway. Its just the sales women still in me wondered how much they would fetch at auction!!